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1136_1263489772.jpg Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "...Sources
Your memory is selective.
I love the bit where you mention that the NUM didn't pay the strikers.
Nice touch that, failing to mention that their funds had been sequestered by the government.
I repeat, I am no fan of Scargill, a sane man would have taken a ballot but he lost most of any public support he had by his pig-headed refusal to do so, also a sane man wouldn't call a strike in warm weather when there were millions of tons of coal stockpiled.
The witch probably licked her lips when he called that strike.
But, nonetheless, here's a couple of the things that Scargill was right about ...
1. The aim was to shut most of the pits to attract a buyer
2. McGregor was brought in to excecute that plan.
3. If the coal industry had been subsidised to the same degree as the nuclear power industry, coal could have been given away free with a pile of pounds notes on top of each sack.
The woman used the police and MI5 illegally against the miners in a purely political and ideological battle.
Merely one of her crimes in my eyes.
Whilst I will not celebrate her death, there is no way am I going to eulogise her.
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| Quote: Chris28 "And yours is? Give over.'"
Yes I think so. I have said I did not agree with some of her policies and have stated my account of living and working through this period. If you believe my account to be unbalanced then perhaps you would like to challenge a point or two
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
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| Quote: WIZEB "What is the record pages for a thread?'"
A lot more than this.
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| Quote: McClennan "So it doesn't matter whether the decisions were right or wrong just that they were made? ...'"
It's like RL refs, Mike – just as long as they make a decision (any decision!) that's all that matters.
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| Quote: Mintball "A lot more than this.'"
Topic?
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: DHM "
Really - so they were unable to find any other form of work?
In Bradford we had a massive reliance on the manufacture of wool and the various processes required to turn wool into yarn - that disappeared the city still has moved on. The city also a massive employer in heavy manufacturing - Croft, GEC, H&G, Baird - which Pat Wall the union leader single-handedly destroyed etc. none of that exists people move on - why is that the miners were unable to move on?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Defend them then. Defend blatanly, unarguably homophobic legislation. Explain why sending an elite fighting force to train a genocidal manics army in guerrilla combat isn’t so bad. Give us the positives of corrupt arms dealings, whats the balance to sheltering Pinochet?
have at it'"
I was outlining what happened in the 70's & 80's to restore some balance to the spiteful and ignorant outpourings on this thread as it was the domestic issues that have caused this deep anger. But you go off on your Pinochet tangent because you seem to think that is as significant. If you want to move to foreign affairs then there are also powerful points in her favour there too.
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| Quote: WIZEB "Topic?'"
JVT, of course.
And the witch was probably responsible for killing JVT as well.
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| There are alot of screwed up people on here! Why are so many of you so fixated by the late Mrs Thatcher? Are you all stuck in some form of time warp?
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "I was outlining what happened in the 70's & 80's to restore some balance to the spiteful and ignorant outpourings on this thread as it was the domestic issues that have caused this deep anger. But you go off on your Pinochet tangent because you though that is as significant. If you want to move to foreign affairs then there are also powerful points in her favour there too.'"
Harold Shipman was a fairly caring doctor. Other than to those he killed of course.
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| £3,750 to attend the funeral of someone you probably didn't like/respect/know anyway?
All aboard the Westminster gravy train.
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| Quote: WIZEB "Topic?'"
Joynt's voluntary tackle.
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "She had an overall majority. Thats our democratic system. But of course you prefer the side of the undemocratic don't you?'"
She did indeed have a majority.
That is indeed our democratic system.
That is not the argument.
The argument is that you said she was "popular" ... and she wasn't.
As for me preferring the side of the undemocratic, I don't know where you get that idea, I am all in favour of democracy.
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| Quote: El Barbudo "
I love the bit where you mention that the NUM didn't pay the strikers.
Nice touch that, failing to mention that their funds had been sequestered by the government. .'"
The NUM moved their millions abroad to avoid paying a 200k fine for an illegal strike. They never intended to pay the miners strike pay and indeed found the funds to pay the pickets.
Quote: El Barbudo "But, nonetheless, here's a couple of the things that Scargill was right about ...
1. The aim was to shut most of the pits to attract a buyer
2. McGregor was brought in to excecute that plan.
3. If the coal industry had been subsidised to the same degree as the nuclear power industry, coal could have been given away free with a pile of pounds notes on top of each sack..'"
Wrong on all points. Please provide proof of your claims.
Quote: El Barbudo "The woman used the police and MI5 illegally against the miners in a purely political and ideological battle.
Merely one of her crimes in my eyes.
Whilst I will not celebrate her death, there is no way am I going to eulogise her.'"
MI5 had due cause to mount counter subversion measures against some of the miners leaders considering the political motivation of the union leaders and their foreign friends.
My comments are to restore some balance to the inaccurate and sick comments made earlier.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Harold Shipman was a fairly caring doctor. Other than to those he killed of course.'"
Another irrelevant tangent. Next?
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