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| Quote: Craig_David "Yeah because the left wing msm got it in for him because of there in Brussels pocket'"
That's about right.
True Blue, never done anything wrong, it's always someone else's fault 
It's always the Unions, The EU, biased press etc, etc |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "That's about right.
True Blue, never done anything wrong, it's always someone else's fault ![]()
The right wing, who have governed the country for the vast majority of time since WW2, who are backed to an embarrassing degree by the press and whose economic ideology - privatisation, underfunded public services, Brexit, low taxes on capital and high incomes - shape our day to day lives in this country.
In their minds they are the real underdogs, they're the ones who are constantly oppressed.
It's the most pathetic thing about Tories - they have absolute power, they've got everything they want but they still constantly want to portray themselves as the victims whilst blaming others for the failure of all that they have done.
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| Quote: Craig_David "It has to be truss for me. She the only one able to take tough enough to the french and germans and northern ireland protocol. Sunak would most probably tell french and germans its ok they keep these customs tariffs on are goods!
You all laughed at Liz when she was in china selling british pork. But at least she was doing something to help make britain great britain again. What was Sunak doing? Paying the lay abouts furlough money to stay home and plotting against boris!'"
I also laughed at her when she was selling cheese to Japan, where over 20% of their population is lactose intolerant. |
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| Quote: Anthony Jones "I also laughed at her when she was selling cheese to Japan, where over 20% of their population is lactose intolerant.'"
Don't know why that would be funny. Population of Japan is over 125 million. So only a 100 million market to aim for. |
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| Quote: wotsupcas "Don't know why that would be funny. Population of Japan is over 125 million. So only a 100 million market to aim for.'"
It's not really a new 100 million market to aim at though is it?
The Japanese full (WTO) duty rate on imports of cheese made from cows milk is 25%. The result of Liz's trade deal means imports of cheese from cows milk into Japan of UK origin will attract a duty rate of 14.6%.
What duty rate do imports of cheese made from cows milk of EU origin attract in Japan? That's right exactly the same 14.6%. So it's not a brexit benefit at all. It's actually what we enjoyed when members of the EU and that was trumpeted as a highlight of the deal.
What the government announce before the deals have been signed and ratified by the WTO aren't always what we end up with but the claim this deal went "far beyond what the EU had achieved in negotiations" was just a straight up lie. The Japanese announced at exactly the same time that this deal just represented a continuation of the EU deal.
Still at the rate our economy is going we might be enjoying the 0% duty rate of a least developed country before too long. |
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| It's funny when the few remaining believers in the cult of Brexit quote benefits of leaving which turn out to be the same as or worse what we had as members  |
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "It's funny when the few remaining believers in the cult of Brexit quote benefits of leaving which turn out to be the same as or worse what we had as members ![]()
Where in my post did I say it was a benefit of Brexit? That's right I didn' t.
My point was the poster was laughing because we were trying to sell cheese to Japan as if it was a stupid thing to do.
Typical europhile making stuff up to suit your tired repetitive agenda.
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "It's not really a new 100 million market to aim at though is it?
The Japanese full (WTO) duty rate on imports of cheese made from cows milk is 25%. The result of Liz's trade deal means imports of cheese from cows milk into Japan of UK origin will attract a duty rate of 14.6%.
What duty rate do imports of cheese made from cows milk of EU origin attract in Japan? That's right exactly the same 14.6%. So it's not a brexit benefit at all. It's actually what we enjoyed when members of the EU and that was trumpeted as a highlight of the deal.
What the government announce before the deals have been signed and ratified by the WTO aren't always what we end up with but the claim this deal went "far beyond what the EU had achieved in negotiations" was just a straight up lie. The Japanese announced at exactly the same time that this deal just represented a continuation of the EU deal.
Still at the rate our economy is going we might be enjoying the 0% duty rate of a least developed country before too long.'"
So we got the same deal as if we were in the EU without having to pay for the privilege?
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| Quote: wotsupcas "Where in my post did I say it was a benefit of Brexit? That's right I didn' t.
My point was the poster was laughing because we were trying to sell cheese to Japan as if it was a stupid thing to do.
Typical europhile making stuff up to suit your tired repetitive agenda.'"
Where in my post did I mention you?
Typical Quitter making stuff up so that they can make themselves the victim. |
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| Quote: wotsupcas "So we got the same deal as if we were in the EU without having to pay for the privilege?
Hmmmm ![]()
No because our trade deal with Japan isn’t as comprehensive.
The GBP 1.5 billion/annum boost to GDP announced by the government was not on top of the GBP 2.1 billion/annum boost we got from the EU-Japan trade deal. Basically it’s cost us at least 0.6billion/annum based on the exaggerated forecasts from the government.
Those figures, of course, were based on expected growth at that time - we’re about to go into a recession. It’s skewed even more in their favour now as the EU economies continue to grow whilst we are contracting. But based on the figures we had before we entered recession, even with the cost of being an EU member, the return was greater.
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| Quote: wotsupcas "So we got the same deal as if we were in the EU without having to pay for the privilege?
Hmmmm ![]()
Oh My God, there's someone who still thinks we paid in more than we got out.
It's amazing, and terrifying, how pervasive the lies of Johnson & Farage were and how toxic their legacy of misinformation is proving.
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "No because our trade deal with Japan isn’t as comprehensive.
The GBP 1.5 billion/annum boost to GDP announced by the government was not on top of the GBP 2.1 billion/annum boost we got from the EU-Japan trade deal. Basically it’s cost us at least 0.6billion/annum based on the exaggerated forecasts from the government.
Those figures, of course, were based on expected growth at that time - we’re about to go into a recession. It’s skewed even more in their favour now as the EU economies continue to grow whilst we are contracting. But based on the figures we had before we entered recession, even with the cost of being an EU member, the return was greater.'"
The EU is forecast, just as we are, to be in recession by the end of the year. |
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| Quote: wotsupcas "The EU is forecast, just as we are, to be in recession by the end of the year.'"
You know as well as I do mate, that won't mean anything on here for some of them  |
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| Quote: wotsupcas "The EU is forecast, just as we are, to be in recession by the end of the year.'"
The EU is made up of 27 individual nation states so just saying "the EU" isn't very helpful (but it does help Quitters in their attempts to still pretend it is some sort of undefined blob).
But taking your assertion at face value how do the depth and causes of this recession compare to those in the UK? |
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "The EU is made up of 27 individual nation states so just saying "the EU" isn't very helpful (but it does help Quitters in their attempts to still pretend it is some sort of undefined blob).
But taking your assertion at face value how do the depth and causes of this recession compare to those in the UK?'"
OK. Without trawling through every country individually in the EU would it be OK with you if I used Germany as an example?
According to Bloomberg and many economists Germany is on the brink of recession due to high energy costs. HTH |
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