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| Quote: crumpledshorts "There is a general relisation that the leave vote was more of a protest against the Conservatives from the Labour heartlands and over 60's, Xenophobic and Racist.
I assume Hull European City of Culture 2017 is cancelled and we're giving the EU the money back, as well as all the other projects that have been funded by the EU?'"
Oh dear, here we go again with the racist and ageist slur at Brexit voters.
You may not agree with it, but Remainers need to start accept the result now. you lost the vote which we were all told many times to be once in a generation by all at the top. there is no going back. and the with all the party in fighting and crucial negotiations that will be going on for the foreseeable the country needs to get behind whoever is to lead us into our future, which will be out of the EU. |
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "No, not funny. Humiliating. It was like having a petulant child "you're not laughing now" in a room full of adults. Like it or not, Farage is now seen as representative of the majority of Britons. That's shameful.'"
not an awful lot different between that and the latest laughable blustering from some European bureaucrats about scrapping English as one of the languages they will use in the EU in future. |
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| Quote: headhunter "The EU has never had any pretense of being democratic, because it doesn't need to be, at least not fully. Many aspects of our lives are undemocratic. Our schools and police force are undemocratic, we don't get to vote on who teaches our kids or patrols our streets but nobody ever raises the issue of democracy when it comes to those things, and anyone doing so would probably be laughed at. The only difference with the EU is that they are perceived to be 'outsiders' and some faraway body rather than local people making the decisions. But there is no reason for the 'undemocratic' parts of the EU to be democratic, especially as most people never bothered to vote or pay any attention to the democratic part (the EU parliament). Saying that you're against the EU because of a lack of democracy isn't much more sensible than saying you're against hospitals or schools or your local gym.'"
schools - not happy with your kids education, then move your kids to a different school
hospitals - not happy with your medical treatment, go to a different hospital, or go private
police - we now have electable Police and Crime Commissioners who are responsible for local policing priorities. Anyway, I think there are enough issues in policing without politicising them too. |
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Hull isn't and never was European City of Culture 2017. It is UK City of Culture 2017. However Hull KRs North Stand (the new one) was part funded by European funding.
With regards to the racist and Xenophobe comment. I don't know where the 60% came from but what I can say confidently is that all racists voted leave even if a large part who voted leave aren't racists.'"
Apologies, thought Hull was European City of Culture, thanks for correcting me.
There are lots of things that have been, or continue to be, EU funded.
The remain vote wasn't lost, simply the leave campaign engaged in lies, and are now making more u turns than someone lost on a roundabout. |
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "You may not agree with it, but Remainers need to start accept the result now. you lost the vote which we were all told many times to be once in a generation by all at the top. there is no going back. and the with all the party in fighting and crucial negotiations that will be going on for the foreseeable the country needs to get behind whoever is to lead us into our future, which will be out of the EU.'"
Not quite - the nauseating Farage himself said in the run-up, when it looked like a close Remain win, that we should go again.
"The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."
Cameron didn't help matters by dismissing that suggestion, presumably because he was so sure of a win, but the fact remains that with a majority of just 1.9% and a groundswell of buyers remorse, the country is now divided - literally in the case of Scotland - and since the predictions made by the much-maligned 'experts' are starting to come true, and the Leave campaign have dramatically dialled back on their main campaign issues, it would be in the best interests of the UK to revisit the process. It was, after all, an advisory referendum, so it's not a done deal. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are more twists to this before the button is pushed to trigger Article 50. |
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| Quote: bren2k "Not quite - the nauseating Farage himself said in the run-up, when it looked like a close Remain win, that we should go again.
"The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said
He did, but it would have been shrugged off as we all know. Cameron and Osborne would be gloating and it would be claimed the people had spoken and business as usual. There would have still been a lot of unhappy people and protests of course, as there are now with the remain camp but there wouldn't have been another referendum.
If article 50 isn't enforced and the Brexit camp screwed over then this country will be in bigger poop with civil unrest and revolt than it ever would be were it to be enforced imo.
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| Quote: EHW "not an awful lot different between that and the latest laughable blustering from some European bureaucrats about scrapping English as one of the languages they will use in the EU in future.'"
But that's perfectly sensible! Without the UK, only Ireland has English as a main language. Why would the other 400 million people carry on using English? |
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "He did, but it would have been shrugged off as we all know. Cameron and Osborne would be gloating and it would be claimed the people had spoken and business as usual. There would have still been a lot of unhappy people and protests of course, as there are now with the remain camp but there wouldn't have been another referendum.
If article 50 isn't enforced and the Brexit camp screwed over then this country will be in bigger poop with civil unrest and revolt than it ever would be were it to be enforced imo.'"
Civil Unrest, by whom, pensioners and the poorly educated? |
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| Quote: crumpledshorts "Not racist Xenophobes?
I'll give you the first one, although nobody knows the full story by the sound of the article, but the second one is classic media twisting in action. The outcome of telling three youths like that would have been the same if they had been told to mind their language by anyone, it's just the nature of the reply that would have been different. Morons like this would have singled out anything to have a go back whether it be age, gender, race or if the person happened to be wearing glasses. I'd hazard a guess had it been me telling them to pipe down, the reply wouldn't have been "thank you kind sir for pointing out the inappropriate nature of our language on a packed tram, have a good day", I'd have more likely got a "f off you speccy ****". Incidents like this happen all the time, it's just now the media have an angle to come at it from and stir it up even more.
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For those who are interested in reality, you may note that there is now open discussion in France and Germany of how the City will have its "passporting" removed as a central plan of -ANY- post-Brexit settlement.
The City's financial services industry is the largest single export we have, and we're running record trade deficits already.
If we do this, it is going to go, and our whole economy with it.
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| Quote: crumpledshorts "Civil Unrest, by whom, pensioners and the poorly educated?'"
oh dear again, how will we get down from that high horse? |
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "If we do this, it is going to go, and our whole economy with it.'"
Ah yes, but at least we've taken back control; of what, no one seems quite able to say, but at least the recession will be an *English* recession, with *English* job losses and an *English* programme of public sector spending cuts that will make George Osborne's austerity measures look like all your Christmas mornings rolled into one.
Facts don't seem to be very welcome in the Farage-esque post-Brexit gloatfest that some people on here seem to be peddling; but well done for trying. |
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| Quote: crumpledshorts "No high horse, a statement of simple facts.
Just because it is the higher percentage does not mean all though does it. Far from it TBH, so it doesn't make your statement fact at all. The disregard of the working classes and elderly is precisely why we have the situation we do today.
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