|
 |
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Captain | 1242 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2018 | 6 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2021 | May 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "and cancel Sky, stop smoking, live to your means.
not rocket science'"
So every single person that is struggling to feed their kids has a sky tv subscription and smokes? Wow. I never knew that! |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 18060 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2023 | Jun 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "and cancel Sky, stop smoking, live to your means.
not rocket science'"
You can't say that on here - personal responsibility doesn't sit high up in the thoughts of many on here. Not surprising because the left leaners would be happy if we all gave our money to Uncle Jeremy and Marxist John and they dole out some pocket money to everyone - as long as their pocket money was bigger than most!! Socialism!! |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 18060 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2023 | Jun 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "So every single person that is struggling to feed their kids has a sky tv subscription and smokes? Wow. I never knew that!'"
And tattoos and designer clothes  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 4648 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "So every single person that is struggling to feed their kids has a sky tv subscription and smokes? Wow. I never knew that!'"
Don't forget the widescreen TV to watch their Sky subscription on! Poor bashers just love bringing out the widescreen TV attack line. If what folks like Sal and IR80 have to say I'm surprised there are any widescreen TVs available to buy, with the poor having one in every room, and all that! |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 18060 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2023 | Jun 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "Don't forget the widescreen TV to watch their Sky subscription on! Poor bashers just love bringing out the widescreen TV attack line. If what folks like Sal and IR80 have to say I'm surprised there are any widescreen TVs available to buy, with the poor having one in every room, and all that!'"
We can't afford 'em priority is feeding our kids |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| First Team Player | 381 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2020 | 4 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2021 | Apr 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "We can't afford 'em priority is feeding our kids ![]()
like you say, personal reliability is not a popular concept on here.
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| First Team Player | 381 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2020 | 4 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2021 | Apr 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "So every single person that is struggling to feed their kids has a sky tv subscription and smokes? Wow. I never knew that!'"
I would wager they have unnecessary outgoings that could be pruned. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 17982 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "like you say, personal reliability is not a popular concept on here.'"
The problem is, that, just like the Tory press, you like to make sweeping generalisations about everyone, especially those that you dont actually know.
We can "rely" on you to do that, even when you change your name, plus ça change, plus c'est pareil - as they say in France. |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| First Team Player | 381 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2020 | 4 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2021 | Apr 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "The problem is, that, just like the Tory press, you like to make sweeping generalisations about everyone, especially those that you dont actually know.
We can "rely" on you to do that, even when you change your name, plus ça change, plus c'est pareil - as they say in France.'"
The same can be said for your defunct socialist ideology, never fails to fail. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 17982 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "The same can be said for your defunct socialist ideology, never fails to fail.'"
But of course you are wrong.
Of the 4 strongest economies in the World two would be regarded as right wing (USA and Japan) and two would be regarded as left wing (China and Germany). and yet, China (socialist) has maintained the strongest year on year growth of the 4
Clearly socialism doesnt work  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 2990 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Quote: "But of course you are wrong.
Of the 4 strongest economies in the World two would be regarded as right wing (USA and Japan) and two would be regarded as left wing (China and Germany). and yet, China (socialist) has maintained the strongest year on year growth of the 4
Clearly socialism doesnt work ![]()
From an economic point,socialism may have worked in China,but would you want to live there and abide by their laws?
This makes for an interesting read.
https://www.inkstonenews.com/china-tran ... le/2161467 |
|
Quote: "But of course you are wrong.
Of the 4 strongest economies in the World two would be regarded as right wing (USA and Japan) and two would be regarded as left wing (China and Germany). and yet, China (socialist) has maintained the strongest year on year growth of the 4
Clearly socialism doesnt work ![]()
From an economic point,socialism may have worked in China,but would you want to live there and abide by their laws?
This makes for an interesting read.
https://www.inkstonenews.com/china-tran ... le/2161467 | |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Moderator | 12647 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
|
Quote: "You can't say that on here - personal responsibility doesn't sit high up in the thoughts of many on here. Not surprising because the left leaners would be happy if we all gave our money to Uncle Jeremy and Marxist John and they dole out some pocket money to everyone - as long as their pocket money was bigger than most!! Socialism!!'"
There’ll always be some individuals who fall through the holes of even the best run society. But it is a question of degree at a societal level.
I mean there must be some societies that you look at and think, ooh this level of inequality isn’t healthy, no? Places where you would be a lefty. According to this list, the UK’s Gini co-efficient is 34.8. Would you be okay with inequality rising to Chinese levels (38.5), US levels (41.4) or even the eye-watering levels of Brazil (53.9) or South Africa (63.0). Or are we better for living in a more equal society than those?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... e_equality |
|
Quote: "You can't say that on here - personal responsibility doesn't sit high up in the thoughts of many on here. Not surprising because the left leaners would be happy if we all gave our money to Uncle Jeremy and Marxist John and they dole out some pocket money to everyone - as long as their pocket money was bigger than most!! Socialism!!'"
There’ll always be some individuals who fall through the holes of even the best run society. But it is a question of degree at a societal level.
I mean there must be some societies that you look at and think, ooh this level of inequality isn’t healthy, no? Places where you would be a lefty. According to this list, the UK’s Gini co-efficient is 34.8. Would you be okay with inequality rising to Chinese levels (38.5), US levels (41.4) or even the eye-watering levels of Brazil (53.9) or South Africa (63.0). Or are we better for living in a more equal society than those?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... e_equality | |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 18060 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2023 | Jun 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "There’ll always be some individuals who fall through the holes of even the best run society. But it is a question of degree at a societal level.
I mean there must be some societies that you look at and think, ooh this level of inequality isn’t healthy, no? Places where you would be a lefty. According to this list, the UK’s Gini co-efficient is 34.8. Would you be okay with inequality rising to Chinese levels (38.5), US levels (41.4) or even the eye-watering levels of Brazil (53.9) or South Africa (63.0). Or are we better for living in a more equal society than those?
I am a greater believer in individuals taking some ownership for their actions. If people work hard/take risks and generate additional profits there should be no limit to the wealth they can generate - to inhibit this is wrong in my view. Supply and demand would push wages up for skilled employees - perhaps getting skills that you can sell should be a priority? Again easy to toss it off at school and then blame everyone else because you can't get a job.
The better off already support those less well off through taxation - top 1% pay a third of all income tax. It is likely they buy more costly stuff so pay more VAT etc. Your view is the government decides who earns what i.e. a cap on wages and salaries and that money pushed down as per your inter-dependence model. My view is without the top being allowed the freedom to make what they can there wouldn't be the incentive and then there wouldn't be the money to push down.
The point I was making is that providing food and clothing for your kids should be a given and a matter of personal responsibility - falling back on the state should be a last resort not the first option - sadly for many the latter is the case.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 17982 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "From an economic point,socialism may have worked in China,but would you want to live there and abide by their laws?
This makes for an interesting read.
I wouldn't but, that's not the point.
Despite Chinas short comings and they have plenty, they ARE a economically successful nation.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 17982 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: "I am a greater believer in individuals taking some ownership for their actions. If people work hard/take risks and generate additional profits there should be no limit to the wealth they can generate - to inhibit this is wrong in my view. Supply and demand would push wages up for skilled employees - perhaps getting skills that you can sell should be a priority? Again easy to toss it off at school and then blame everyone else because you can't get a job.
The better off already support those less well off through taxation - top 1% pay a third of all income tax. It is likely they buy more costly stuff so pay more VAT etc. Your view is the government decides who earns what i.e. a cap on wages and salaries and that money pushed down as per your inter-dependence model. My view is without the top being allowed the freedom to make what they can there wouldn't be the incentive and then there wouldn't be the money to push down.
The point I was making is that providing food and clothing for your kids should be a given and a matter of personal responsibility - falling back on the state should be a last resort not the first option - sadly for many the latter is the case.'"
What you say, may be ok if those at the top actually contributed the requisite level of tax, instead of many of them finding a myriad of ways to avoid doing so.
Ironically, the current government have created an even more state dependent population and the view for a little while will bet that "the government should help". |
|
|
|
|
|
by 
