Of course not - the police are scaremongering and just need to modernise their methods. Maybe they could send a drone round when you've been burgled - take a few pictures, record your statement, spit out a crime number - bingo, your insurance claim is underway, and the few coppers who remain in a job can focus on the real criminals.

Of course you could employ a lot me police officers so everyone can get their insurance claims settled earlier!!

Perhaps if we spent the money tackling the root cause of so many robberies then we wouldn't actually need so many note taking form filling guys/girls in blue uniforms. Perhaps if the elephant in the room i.e. drugs were tackled using an enlightened approach then domestic crime might actually drop?

Of course its so much better to take the Labour approach throw loads of money at it - that will sort it. Pity they struggle with how much it will cost

I agree they will get some of the money year 1 but after that not a chance. The idea about reducing taxation % levels was to increase the overall tax take which does appear to be happening. Perhaps if more focus was put on the take itself rather than the headline numbers then that would give a more balanced approach.

It is like judging the NHS on the performance of A&E it gives a distorted view of the service.

You miss my point; and who do you think tackles the root cause of more serious crime? Community police officers of course - who have been decimated by the ideological Tory cuts.

It's nice to see the level of respect you have for the police - "note taking girls and guys in blue uniforms." Classy that.

Community police officers don't sort serious social issues like drug abuse, gang crime or drink driving they are society issues that need innovative high level solutions. You miss the point completely.

Last week I watched a program at abuse of minor by Pakistani men in Rochdale - 3 girls. The police allowed that abuse to go one despite knowing what was going on for years. Not one police officer was disciplined or lost their job - no acceptance they got it wrong. Same goes for Hillsborough etc. When the police stop covering up their mistakes and closing ranks that will be a time to have some respect for the service and how it conducts itself.

TBF SY Police have accepted they made mistakes at Hillsborough.

Is that the same force that had to remove David Crompton because he tried to shift the blame away from the police after the inquest verdict?

I agree entirely. What is your enlightened approach?

Moving on slightly.
The value of the pound has dropped this morning, amid fears of a hung parliament.

Have the Tories taken the electorate for granted, again.

First, it was Brexit, where Cameron was "certain" of victory and now, we have T.May calling a snap election (despite saying many, many times that she wouldn't) and expecting to rack up a huge majority but, it seems that "we (the voters) are having none of it.
Although I'm not a fan of Corbyn, I'm so disenchanted with politics that I would absolutely love to see Mrs May fall flat on her face over this one.
Under the false pretence of needing a "strong and stable" government to carry out Brexit negotiations and having 3 years left in power (and Brexit apparently needs less than 2 years to conclude), the greedy Troies, tried to make a "land grab" for votes and seats from all the other parties.
Thankfully, it seems that the young and apathetic voters have registered to vote in huge numbers, making a Tory majority far less certain.
It's absolutely hilarious and Mrs May could be finding out what life is like down at the local job centre

Corbyn to take the stage in the leaders debate now with May opting to keep her distance. I would say it's a big risk from the PM but judging from her dire performances so far under any kind of grilling she has probably made the right call.

Indeed
She is excellent at delivering a scripted speech but, very weak under pressure (neither strong nor stable ).
However, with most of the other politicians from the left of the political spectrum, apart from the busted flush that is UKIP, there will be a fair amount of consensus coming from the panel, which makes Labour look like the "best" option.
Unless some of the other parties really rip into Corbyn (which is unlikely as they all have "similar" policies), this will be good for Labour.

I think it's important to differentiate between the lessons SYP have obviously learnt from dealing with the incident to the more murky goings on around the cover up and attempts to blame supporters for what happened.

I do know many of the officers to blame for those murky goings on are long gone.

No I don't miss your point - you're just wilfully misinformed, thanks I suspect, to your refusal to waver from the Tory/Daily Mail dogma. Google the Broken Windows theory of crime and disorder - then think again about whether community policing impacts positively on more serious crime.

Your second point is a different one - nobody would deny that there has been corruption and malfeasance in certain forces; it's rather a stretch though to use Hillsborough as an example in support of Mrs May's savage cuts to the police force. Which government (and newspaper) colluded with the corrupt South Yorkshire force, not only over Hillsborough, but also prior to that during the miners strike?