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| Quote: The Avenger "
Another term in office for the Conservatives will take us back a century'"
Not for the rich it won't. They'll continue to do just fine while the state helps them out every chance it gets.
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| Quote: Him "Not for the rich it won't. They'll continue to do just fine while the state helps them out every chance it gets.'"
The Stately Homes of England,
How beautiful they stand,
To prove the upper classes
Have still the upper hand;
The gap between the haves and have nots will be grow even wider, we aren't that far away from workhouses again.
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| Quote: The Avenger "At least they acknowledge there's a problem whereas Cameron, Osborne and Duncan-Smith are totally out of touch, in deep denial or just plain covering their s while practicing extreme ideology because it suits them.
Another term in office for the Conservatives will take us back a century'"
I think you've summed it up perfectly, I can't believe for one minute that IDS isn't a normally rational man who really believes the tripe he spouts in order to protect Cameron and the faceless puppet operators above him (no-one is THAT stupid) he is simply a patsy hence the reason that he's still in the position.
Truth is though, many people simply do not question what they are being preached at and the opposition that Labour offer up to them is ineffective or non-existant, unfortunately I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Tories sold us all a line again and got back in on their own majority.
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And you'll rise high today,
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| Quote: JerryChicken " unfortunately I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Tories sold us all a line again and got back in on their own majority.'"
Personally, I reckon there is more chance of a Tory overall majority, than a Labour one, though realistically we are probably looking at a Tory/Lib Dem coalition again.
Milliband is s**t, simple as.... I'm 45 and have voted Labour all my life. However, this May will be the first time I haven't, simply because he, and all the wet bunch in his shadow cabinet, offer absolutely nothing.
Only one senior Labour figure would inspire me to vote for them and that is Alan Johnson, and even he is quietly distancing himself from the present leadership and its (lack) of policies... His frequent appearances in the general media have seen him happy to make fun of Milliband & co - He knows as much anybody how inadequate and hopeless they all are.
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| Quote: The Avenger "
Please don't try telling me that Labours insistence on people not feeling the economic upturn is just a sound bite because I and I'm sure many others find it grossly insulting!'"
It is just a soundbite.
I'm doing great. You are not. Bummer - try doing something about it. New Qualification / New Job etc instead of blaming others.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "It is just a soundbite.
I'm doing great. You are not. Bummer - try doing something about it. New Qualification / New Job etc instead of blaming others.'"
No it's not!
I have a degree and a masters already!
Not blaming anyone, just stating facts about the Tory (Nazi) Party
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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| Quote: The Avenger "No it's not!
I have a degree and a masters already!
Not blaming anyone, just stating facts about the Tory (Nazi) Party'"
Don't get drawn mate, our resident battery-licker and shower-drinker, is well-known for his tremendous personal success, even though some of us remember his days working in a filling station.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Personally, I reckon there is more chance of a Tory overall majority, than a Labour one, though realistically we are probably looking at a Tory/Lib Dem coalition again.
Milliband is s**t, simple as.... I'm 45 and have voted Labour all my life. However, this May will be the first time I haven't, simply because he, and all the wet bunch in his shadow cabinet, offer absolutely nothing.
Only one senior Labour figure would inspire me to vote for them and that is Alan Johnson, and even he is quietly distancing himself from the present leadership and its (lack) of policies... His frequent appearances in the general media have seen him happy to make fun of Milliband & co - He knows as much anybody how inadequate and hopeless they all are.'"
If Greece goes down the pan pre-GE I think the Tories will get a majority. I agree with what you say except IF there is no overall majority I think we could see a Con-Lab coalition. Having said that, Labour will not get its usual number of seats as the SNP will trounce them in Scotland.
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| Quote: The Avenger "No it's not!
I have a degree and a masters already!
Not blaming anyone, just stating facts about the Tory (Nazi) Party'"
I must have missed these 'facts'.
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| Quote: Dally " I think we could see a Con-Lab coalition. '"
..... Really??.... A government without an opposition??
I know it all depends on numbers, but I think there are 3 realistic coalitions - A continuation of the present Con/Lib Dems, A Con/Irish Unionist partnership, or Lab/SNP.
Personally, I'd prefer better the devil you know with regards to coalitions, so I'd be satisfied with the Con/Lib Dems over the other two.
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| Quote: Dally "If Greece goes down the pan pre-GE I think the Tories will get a majority. I agree with what you say except IF there is no overall majority I think we could see a Con-Lab coalition. Having said that, Labour will not get its usual number of seats as the SNP will trounce them in Scotland.'"
Come on Dally don't be daft.
There are a few options for coalitions depending on the numbers but a Con-Lab one isn't an option.
The most likely scenario is a Labour-Lib Dem/SNP coalition. Maybe a coalition involving all 3.
If the Tories get more seats than Labour then they may possibly be able to get another coalition with the Lib Dems but I'm not sure how happy either the Tories or Lib Dems would be with that, or whether the Lib Dems will have enough seats to make a worthy partner for the Tories. The same goes for UKIP, though I'm sure I remember Farage saying he wouldn't go into coalition with the Tories, not that that means anything in UKIP-land.
I can't see an outright victory for the Tories, so if the election goes well for them I think it'll be a Tory-UKIP/Lib Dem/Irish coalition.
If the election goes really well for Labour they may, just may sneak a majority but the more likely scenario is they'll have to partner up with the Lib Dems or SNP.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "
Yes. That's was the "democratic will of the people" last time. If it is again, then I think it will be hard to ignore a Con-Lab coalition. Having said that I think the Tories will either win or comfortably be able to achieve a working minority government. The Labour leadership gives them no hope.
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
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| Quote: Dally "Yes. That's was the "democratic will of the people" last time. If it is again, then I think it will be hard to ignore a Con-Lab coalition. Having said that I think the Tories will either win or comfortably be able to achieve a working minority government. The Labour leadership gives them no hope.'"
No chance.... We would have to be under a serious, imminent threat of invasion from an IS type enemy. for the two main parties to form a coalition.
There are several different combinations of parties that could form possible coalitions, but Con/Lab isn't one of them.
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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| Back on subject.
Cameron is prevaricating yet again. After the broadcasters agreed to include the Green party, albeit including Paid and SNP, he's now demanding that the DUP also be included in any debate. No doubt if the broacasters agree, we'll then see demands from Sinn Fein and SDLP for inclusion too.
No Northern Irish parties should be included in the British televised debates, simply because the major parties do not field candidates at all in Ireland.
He also wants the debates to take plce BEFORE the campaign is officially under way, making the spurious claim that they diverted from REAL campaigning in 2010.
The man is coming across as frightened to take the floor and open himself to any serious investigation.
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| Quote: Dally "Yes. That's was the "democratic will of the people" last time. If it is again, then I think it will be hard to ignore a Con-Lab coalition. Having said that I think the Tories will either win or comfortably be able to achieve a working minority government. The Labour leadership gives them no hope.'"
No government will ever be able to comfortably achieve a working minority government.
It can work but it wouldn't be comfortable and would be very difficult to maintain.
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