The thread has drifted away from gay marriage and I got bored with that days ago. I have no intention of reinvorating it.

So if everything needs a creator who created the creator?

That's one for scientists to discover.

Of course, there's loads of them with nothing to do now gods sorted out cancer and aids.

Pathetic. You made a statement which you were unable to back up and now you're trying to wriggle out of it. Classic Dally. It's like the 'off-site book' all over again.

Dally in "not answering a direct question" shocker.

By your own arguments, only a few posts before this, there is no such choice because your god has already decided everything.

Oh, there's an extent to which trolling is occurring. But his refusal to respond to anything I post – presumably because he has declared that I 'work for Satan' make me suspect that there's a substantial element of actual belief there too.

How much does this Satan chap pay?
Could do with a few hours seeing as I'm kicking my heels around at present.

Hey Kirkstaller i remember you now, i used to watch you with my mates on a saturday afternoon in Wake town ranting in your ecclesiastical ways. you used to have a group who took it in turns. they stood in the corner where they would try to blend in with the public, but the thing that gave them away was they would kep nodding in agreement. God must be laughing his ass off at you muppets. Please try to read the second coming by john niven. It basically says for people just to be nice to each other, nothing else.

The pay is good, but the conditions are hell.

Which is the main message of the Bible. If Christians would simply follow that message, and many do, instead of attempting to run everybody else's lives then they would find a lot more sympathy around the country. Sadly too many Christians follow the latter course rather than the former.

No, the main message of the Bible is to tell us how to be reconciled with God - grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

It is good to follow God's commandments and it certainly pleases him when we do this, but that is not the main message of Christian scripture.

Which is why you consistently misunderstand the Bible and Jesus' teachings, to the extent that you believe you have the right to tell 1 person who he can love and who he can't. That is not the intention of Jesus' teachings, the intent was to be nice to each other. By being nice to someone else you make the world a slightly better place. Again, if Christians would follow that very simple message instead of focussing on the other outdated crap that was inserted into the Bible centuries after the event then I am certain that Christianity would be far more popular and far less derided in this country.

Why is hell so bad?

You've left your body so can't feel the heat.