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| Personally, i think the Yanks left all that gear behind for the Taliban in order them to be able to fight any future incursions from any number of America's 'enemies'. Nobody could botch a withdrawal that badly on purpose.
Could they?
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| Quote: 100% Wire "Personally, i think the Yanks left all that gear behind for the Taliban in order them to be able to fight any future incursions from any number of America's 'enemies'. Nobody could botch a withdrawal that badly on purpose.
Could they?'"
They did it Vietnam and Somalia, so why not?
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| Quote: wire-quin "Who are the normal Afghans?'"
Not the Taliban ,people who enjoyed freedom ,girls and women being able to choose what they want to do ,like get an education and jobs,even guys who want to wear a pair of Jean's even
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| Quote: JONNYGIANT "Not the Taliban ,people who enjoyed freedom ,girls and women being able to choose what they want to do ,like get an education and jobs,even guys who want to wear a pair of Jean's even'"
Not the Republicans and Supreme Court, people who enjoyed freedom, girls and women being able to chose what they want to do, like get an abortion. (Roe v Wade), even guys who don’t want to wear a pair of jeans even lol
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| Quote: JONNYGIANT "Not the Taliban ,people who enjoyed freedom ,girls and women being able to choose what they want to do ,like get an education and jobs,even guys who want to wear a pair of Jean's even'"
This is a country that historically has never had that, bar the last few years.
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| Quote: wire-quin "This is a country that historically has never had that, bar the last few years.'"
It did in the sixties ,and you're right the last few years ,all for nothing but hey ho it's a basket case of a country
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Afghanistan certainly is done but, it will be the Russians, Chinese and others that decide it's future, not the Afghan people.
As for Britains colonial past, there will always be issues if we try and compare the actions of 150+ years ago with how we try to behave these days although, some people do seem to think that Britain still rules the world but, we are a little way down the pecking order.'"
Completely agree - until the 1900s we had children working in factories!!
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| Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Completely agree - until the 1900s we had children working in factories!!'"
We still do, we just moved the factories to Pakistan and Bangladesh whilst 're branding it as "fast fashion".
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| Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "We still do, we just moved the factories to Pakistan and Bangladesh whilst 're branding it as "fast fashion".'"
Fair point - cant really argue with that.
Fortunately I am too old for Primark
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| Dom lost his job over a small international issue that is now yesterday’s news. Sad really, I suspect it’s an another example of the “cancel culture” being played out. Don’t like something call for their head.
He can now get on with sorting out the trouble makers closer to home which is more important to most of us. Well done Boris.
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| Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Fair point - cant really argue with that.
Fortunately I am too old for Primark'"
I dont think that it's just Primark who have child labour in their supply chain
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| I can’t believe that the excuse given by Raab for the slow withdrawal of Afghans was because we did not want just anybody to come in due to our generosity of spirit. The outcome was that we left many to die because of our generosity of spirit.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I can’t believe that the excuse given by Raab for the slow withdrawal of Afghans was because we did not want just anybody to come in due to our generosity of spirit. The outcome was that we left many to die because of our generosity of spirit.'"
Its old news lets move on. We have far more pressing issues to be worried about. Some whistleblower looking for his 15 minutes.
The Cons Xmas party is bigger news and thats a non story, although listening to Labour you would think something bad had occurred.
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| Ah yes, another favourite approach of the Conservative Defence League is that really awful stuff that is being reported will be framed as unimportant if it happened some time in the past.
"Oh this shambolic piece of governing is old news", they'll say.
As if that makes it irrelevant. As if that makes it all right. As if that will bring back to life the people betrayed by Raab and Johnson and who are now dead.
The defenders are using all the pages of the playbook to try and cover up what has essentially been a clown car of a government almost every day since the 2019 election. Unfortunately for them their task is starting to become impossible.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "their task is starting to become impossible.'"
Some of the mental gymnastics on display across the media is verging on comical. I don't know how anyone is willing to make themselves look so daft defending someone else.
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