The issue with Thatcher and her fight with the Unions was that it didn't affect her voting public and the vast majority of the fall out was felt by the Labour voters "up north".
I actually agree that some of the power of the Unions needed tempering and despite my years, I was too young to really be affected by the 3 day week of the 70's etc and maybe had I really experienced it, rather than a kid having to light candles, I may have felt differently.
However, my memory of the late 70's and early 80's was of some hardship and immense difficulty in finding work, although I eventually did and fortunately have never been out of work since but, rioting on the streets, high unemployment etc were the order of the day and while most of the South were unaffected, "we" got a damn good "kicking" from the Tory establishment and that is the reason that I would never vote for them.

Only a despicable, obnoxious, twisted guttersnipe like thatcher would weaponise Miners wives and kids

Interesting that the Tory supporters on here really struggle to understand what Thatcherism was about.

1983 keep the pits open and subsidise them a little to keep the industry going.
“No the market determines everything let the industry die”


2021. We need the car plant at Nissan to be subsidised so it does not close .
“ Oh ok here is 50 million please don’t close as it will make Brexit and us look stupid. “

That same pattern will be repeated ad nauseous in the next few years.

Which one is right state intervention to save Nissan workers or no state intervention and sod the miners

Right so all the people of the North who voted labour were the only people who felt the fall out from the fight between the government and the unions, people such as myself and my workmates who weren't in a union who didn't have a union to fall back on because back in the day unions were frowned upon in private enterprise to a large extent and we were shopping at different shops, what you are saying also is that we were exempt from relative hardship due in the main to the weaker labour governments getting into bed with the powerful union leaders and pleasing them at all costs to the tune of jobs for the boys at whatever price to stay in government, which inevitably led to the confrontations with Thatcher and bully boy Scargill and his cronies who thought that they should run the country and decide there would be no redundancies whatever the cost to the general public wherever they chose to live

It's good you agree that the unions needed tempering because it was not funny having no lighting and heating due to power cuts brought on by power crazed union leaders fuelled by greed, and one last thing, I do hope the we got a damn good kicking from the Tory establishment isn't just reserved for you because a lot of innocent people felt the hardship due in the main to Scargill.

Some of the pits that Scargill wanted to save were costing over £500 to produce £1 worth of coal. Economic suicide

I take it that your not a Scargill fan ?

Seriously though, the jobs for the boys comment is quite strange, given that this is exactly how the country works (on both sides of the political divide). Nepotism is alive and well at both ends of the political spectrum.
The "kicking" from the Tory establishment as part of the collateral damage from Maggie's fight with the Unions clearly hit everyone "up north" and for 2 or 3 generations, you could argue that, in economic terms, "we" still haven't fully got over it.

The point I was trying to make with this is that, the population of the North felt the full effect of this.
Yes, they also endured the hardship and difficulties of the 3 day week and the effects of the endless strikes of the 70's but, they also hit the hardest in terms of the change to the industrial landscape and the decimation of heavy industry.

Unions or not, it was and still is a huge price to pay for a political battle of wills

The so called "great leader" looked after her own to the detriment of those outside of her Tory voting public.

Thatcher was simply a Fascist, who idolised Augusta Pinochet Chilean Dictator and Mass Populace Murderer.

Her modus operandus mirrored his policies.

Summed up succinctly by her Poll Tax

One of the most uneconomical was up here in the north east at Ellington 15 miles out under the North Sea. Took a full hour for the miners to get there from the shaft and an hour to get back . Nearly 20% of shift time . Despite being closed by Thatcher it was still reopened by a private company RJB for several years so I would live to see where you get the £500 to make £1 from.

If you don’t provide any evidence I will assume you just invented that figure to support your political view. Wotsupcas is a Johnsonite !!!!

You've got that wrong squire the mans a clown, only difference is he's not as big a clown as that muppet from your embarrassing lot, speaking of which, there's a couple of Wakey posters on here what make things up to suit they're political agenda, on that basis I just try and redress the balance as I don't think your party would have done any better, oh and I've put the extra T in chissitt for yer all reet, btw did I ever tell you how I got my user name

It's my pleasure

You see the problem I have reading your and pimpernels guff is just the same, I don't have the time or the inclination to find out whether you speak the truth or it's your imagination, I do wonder though where you get all your info from, you and pimpy must have some powerful allies in parliament if all your intel is true, unless of course your that naive enough to believe the labour supporting rags, putting all your bitterness to one side if it's possible on balance if you think that your loony party could have done better then you really are a pair of crackpots

The bottom line is that despite you indicating that we make things up but you cannot provide any proof that what I have posted was not correct. I bet you feel such a fool even more so for supporting a government run by a lying fool and his team of failures.
I would think your name came from Chester is it.

Pimpy me owd, I've never even voted for the player of the year down at Bellevue never mind voted for a member of parliament, but credit to you because your right in your belief about the lying fool and his team of failures, what beggers belief though is your inability to recognise the other
team of inadequate fools whose every word you hang on.

It's not for me to prove your lying as in reality I am only doubting your insinuations regarding Boris and his mates, just because you've read it in the guardian or the mirror doesn't make it true despite your eagerness and tendency to over exaggerate every rumour put out by the far left hacks, it's more down to you to substantiate your claims about the government's inadequacies than me to defend them.

As for the Chester remark, a quick look at my posts you will see that the last time I posted on the Wakey board was in 2015 well before Chester was at the club, and have only recently started posting again and in fact have never mentioned Chester at all, where as you have personally mounted a vendetta against the man resulting in warnings from the moderators for excessive abuse, oh and one last thing I was talking to the green keeper the other day from the golf club you frequent, him who keeps telling me lies about you allegedly

I couldn’t even tell what the green keeper looks like and I certainly have never spoken to him. I have also never been reported for golf course abuse and I know that our chief executive has never had a reason to report me to my golf club. The other problem is that Carter is not a member and I have never seen him on the course.
I don’t remember being warned for abusing Chester but I did think he had reached his expiry date and I still believe it. He was taking the club backwards rapidly towards relegation maybe not this season but certainly the next plus he would single handily reduce the club’s income.
I take the view that if you choose not to vote then you have no right to criticise any party, the same for the council elections.