Oh dear Stephie nothing alters same old same old, 1/10, 0/10 for content, 0/10 for effort, and 1/10 for predictability

The only reason your on the sin bin is it's the only board your not banned on, apart from the VT where everybody is bored to tears with your old material you even managed to kill off the saints board, here's an idea, why don't you try and re invent yourself again, at least it will give us something to work out between your first and second post who you are, the WarringtonWolve 69 isn't working for you I'm afraid

How American is that! .......add in Yanks just don't have a sense of humour.

If he's guilty of fraud, then the authorities should deal with him, end of.
The overspend argument could be really interesting, it may be wise not to look at HS2 or pretty much any major project, they rarely come in under budget ?

As a sub contractor I am well aware of cost overruns. I agree also that most major projects always finish up over budget. However it’s the placing of contracts on the conference that is under investigation. Also the companies involved are linked to certain trade Union leaders.
My point is dodgy deals aren’t exclusive to the Tory party.. Almost forgot Peter Mandelson ,seem to remember him mixed up in some dubious loans.

It's an interesting one.
NOBODY should be above the law and if there are underhand deals or "dodgy" favouritism going on then, those involved should be brought to account.
Sadly, this doesn't seem to apply if you are part of the current government or their friends and family.

Who is me?

Mandelson wasn't taking money from a donor. And he resigned.

And now there's talk for a £2k pay rise for MP's.

It probably won’t be a popular opinion, but if it was accompanied by better policed expenses system, I’d be okay with more than that. That’s probably only inflation.

As per normal you misread my posting. Under no circumstances am I defending the Tory government, they are a pretty shabby bunch. Mandelson in fact resigned on 2 occasions, then obviously went on to make a fortune in the EU. Likewise with Blair the warmongering specimen. I am merely making the obvious point that the tories haven’t got exclusive rights to sleaze .
Any thoughts on Ian Lavery mp ? . I won’t venture down the road of how many labour politicians seem to end up the wrong side of the law. Step forward Claudia Webb and take a bow. Anyway I thought you would be rejoicing all this debacle should lead to a labour victory at the next election .

Labour are less bad, a lot, lot less bad, than the Tories. But it's hardly a reason for celebration.
It will just be relief at getting this increasingly authoritarian, culture-war obsessed, lying and corrupt lot out.

Good grief I am in total shock, I actually agree with you.

Is this Deja vu. there was a similar situation following the expenses scandal and right now, it seems like its the Tories very much pleasing themselves and trying to get away with whatever thet think possible, all seemingly just following their leader.
Ultimately, the MP's are public servants and broadly speaking, they should receive the same level of pay increase as the rest of the public sector.
I find it ridiculous that they have their own "independent" body which recommends their pay increases but, they can then issue a public sector pay freeze.
Seems like more double standards ???

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