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| Quote: the cal train "of course they deserve human rights, they're human. They deserve to receive medical treatment, face a trial, and be locked up for the rest of their lives.'"
As far as i'm concerned he forfeited his human rights when he murdered one of our soldiers.
If I had my way he'd be strung up and dipped into a fire, up and down, to slowly burn alive jessie washington style.
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| Anyone else worried that this may be a tipping point to larger troubles?
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| Quote: Ski "Ah the EDL have got involved. Covering their faces to attack Police Officers.
Yep. The group sworn to defend English values are attacking an English town, and (assumed) English Police.
Well done. Proving your point spectacularly.'"
Granted. But what about the PC brigade that have caused this? Where is the criticism for those - and there are many on here - who shout "racist" when people question immigration policy and more particularly those who constantly criticise our country and its foreign policy and invoke victimhood status on so many others around the world? These are the people whose narrative over a period of many years has directly caused this.
PS Remember the wise words of Enoch Powell. Remember too the Balkans. Then if you're one of those who I refer to above reflect tonight on the likely future for this country as a result of your ill thought through "ideology."
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Anyone else worried that this may be a tipping point to larger troubles?'"
Yes.
I can see BNP / EDL types torching a couple of mosques and going looking for Asian gangs. Who are no better and will probably rise to the bait.
Either way, coppers are set for some decent overtime.
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| Quote: Dally "Granted. But what about the PC brigade that have caused this? Where is the criticism for those - and there are many on here - who shout "racist" when people question immigration policy and more particularly those who constantly criticise our country and its foreign policy and invoke victimhood status on so many others around the world? These are the people whose narrative over a period of many years has directly caused this.
PS Remember the wise words of Enoch Powell. Remember too the Balkans. Then if you're one of those who I refer to above reflect tonight on the likely future for this country as a result of your ill thought through "ideology."'"
This incedent has had me thinking 'Was Enoch right'? Thing is, brutal murders would still happen without immigration.
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| Quote: wigan_rlfc "This incedent has had me thinking 'Was Enoch right'? Thing is, brutal murders would still happen without immigration.'"
Of course they would but would they happen for reasons that amount to hatred of the country by what appear to be its own citizen(s)?
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| Nothing worse than those on here patronising people and pretending they're on some kind of elevated cultural plain because they pretend they don't get any feelings of anger from seeing things like this happen. As one or two have already mentioned, you'd soon change your tune when one of your family was brutally murdered.
Horrible. Quite how you fix this kind of stuff is beyond me. Black Londeners pretending to be Muslim and killing British soldiers? Quite how people end up in such a bad place that that is seen as a way forward is beyond me.
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| Quote: Saddened! "
Horrible. Quite how you fix this kind of stuff is beyond me. Black Londeners pretending to be Muslim and killing British soldiers? Quite how people end up in such a bad place that that is seen as a way forward is beyond me.'"
The way forward is a return to personal responsibility. The thing that made Britain the place it once was. These people who always make victims and causes out of wrongdoers are the problem and wholly to blame. We need to go back to a clear sense of right and wrong. People who are righteous should be looked after and rewarded and those who are wrongdoers should be dealt with harshly by the justice system. It's simple.
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| Quote: Dally "The way forward is a return to personal responsibility. '"
Agreed.
Most are aware of their 'rights', far fewer are aware of their responsibilities.
Also, you can pretty much guarantee that, in the coming days, some left-leaning hack will try and justify the attack as disgruntled youths who are vexed at British involvement in Afghanistan and who didn't get enough love as a sprog.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "here is the video.
It does. What gets me is how many people are just milling around, having a look, talking to the attackers. They were apparently boasting about what they'd done, whilst covered in blood and carrying knives and other weapons? Yet no one there seemed scared and were stood round talking and even approaching the body on the floor. The attackers seemed very calm and happy, yet when the Police arrived they apparently attacked them too and had to be shot.
I know shock does a lot of things, but in that instance, I'd be thinking of scarpering first before getting my phone out, discussing it with the attackers or checking out the bodies.
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| Quote: Saddened! "It does. What gets me is how many people are just milling around, having a look, talking to the attackers. They were apparently boasting about what they'd done, whilst covered in blood and carrying knives and other weapons? Yet no one there seemed scared and were stood round talking and even approaching the body on the floor. The attackers seemed very calm and happy, yet when the Police arrived they apparently attacked them too and had to be shot.
I know shock does a lot of things, but in that instance, I'd be thinking of scarpering first before getting my phone out, discussing it with the attackers or checking out the bodies.'"
But surely if they believed the rubbish they were spouting and they were "terrorists" their approach was spot on -maximum terror, maximum publicity and the possibility of a big trial to gain further coverage and be a focal point for more trouble.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Nothing worse than those on here patronising people and pretending they're on some kind of elevated cultural plain because they pretend they don't get any feelings of anger from seeing things like this happen. As one or two have already mentioned, you'd soon change your tune when one of your family was brutally murdered.
Horrible. Quite how you fix this kind of stuff is beyond me. Black Londeners pretending to be Muslim and killing British soldiers? Quite how people end up in such a bad place that that is seen as a way forward is beyond me.'"
"Pretending to be Muslim"
Prove it
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| Quote: Lawrie L ""Pretending to be Muslim"
Prove it'"
Prove he wasn't.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Nothing worse than those on here patronising people and pretending they're on some kind of elevated cultural plain because they pretend they don't get any feelings of anger from seeing things like this happen. As one or two have already mentioned, you'd soon change your tune when one of your family was brutally murdered.
Horrible. Quite how you fix this kind of stuff is beyond me. Black Londeners pretending to be Muslim and killing British soldiers? Quite how people end up in such a bad place that that is seen as a way forward is beyond me.'" I'll be honest I am angry.
I'm angry that this has happened, I'm angry that an innocent guy who was just stood there has been brutally run down and hacked to pieces, I'm angry for his family but I temper that against the fact that I am better than the nut cases who have done this.
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| Quote: Dally "Prove he wasn't.'"
I can't, just as Saddened can't
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