Just reading down that article and laughed at this, after the whole 'i can't possibly sit in standard class' et all;

Shadow chancellor George Osborne said: "That's the thing about general elections, they do reveal the truth about people."

On the face of it this is a ridiculous decision by Social Services, not the Rotherham council. The council, rather than defending the decision, should have announced an internal enquiry. Although I am not a UKIP supporter (I'm a Labour member) I do not regard them as a racist organisation. They are no more racist than the right of the Tory party. If, on the other hand, the foster parents belonged to the BNP, NF or EDL who do have a racist agenda then that would be an entirely different matter.

Who knows, fostering kids from an immigrant background might have changed this couples attitude to multi-culturalism.

London is supposedly multi cultural yet ask anyone who lives here or knows it well, it simply isn't.
London has little pockets of certain people, there are few if any places in which there is a mix of everyone.

Examples, just a couple but could probably do it for every part of London.
Stamford Hill, Golders Green are Jewish areas
Willesden, Harlesden black areas
Wembley, Southall Asian areas
Turnpike Lane, Palmers Green, Turkish and Greek areas.
Romford, Barking white areas

For every place in London you could label it an (x) area. That to me isn't people mixing, that isn't multi culturalism it's simply people of similar backgrounds, experiences and cultures flocking together because they share similar lives and feel comfortable with each other and understand those types of people better, therefore feel like more of a community. You can't fight nature, all animals do it, why do people think humans are any different, we have brains yes, we are the dominant species on the planet but most animals share these in built nuances, it's not racist, it's insecurity and the need to feel safe that drives this.
I love all colours and religions yet i'll be honest, i would feel like a fish out of water living in an Asian area, i'd feel like a spare part and as much as i'd like to integrate and fit in, i don't think i would.

They're talking about a 5 year freeze on [iall[/i immigration. Have a word with any multinational business of your choice and see what they reckon to that crackpot policy. And maybe we have services 'at breaking point' due to massive swingeing cuts rather than huge numbers of immigrants?

Controlled immigration is the way forward. A total freeze is crackpottery of the highest order.


You might want to do some research. We are in technical breach of a treaty we voluntarily signed up to in the wake of the second world war. Even then, it's only a blanket ban on all prisoners voting regardless of individual circumstances that's been ruled illegal. And finally, the will of parliament is still sovereign and cannot be overruled. All Cameron has to do is put a genuine bill to a genuine vote. Unfortunately his somewhat intemperate comments might torpedo that one.


We're not talking about idealism. We're talking about crackpottery. And no serious commentators ruled out a black president.

It's a constant source of amusement and some amazement that those of a certain right-wing (or just plain stupid) persuasion can continually conflate the ECRH and the EU (in its various guises). I still haven't concluded whether it is through ignorance or a deliberate attempt to confuse their audience

I am a little stupid - what is the "ECRH"?

Its the European Court of Rabbits and Hares.

Burrow hard enough and you get the answer! Thanks.

The issue really is whether the fosterers share those views. it cant be taken as read that because they're a member of a political party they buy into every policy.
many parties have policies that their members do not share.

my cousin is a fosterer and a member of the labour party. nobody would suggest that she should be banned from fostering children from a middle eastern background because of that party's recent tendency to invade those countries!

Meanwhile ...

AFAIK, what Farage believes in is sovereignty remaining in Westminster.

"Self governance" can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean.
It could mean Home Rule for Yorkshire for some people.
To others, it could mean an independent Scotland.
I happen to think that Federalism is self-governance, ... see Switzerland, Australia, USA, Germany, etc. all of whom are federal and all of whom appear to be doing fine on the self-governance front.
Sure, you get anti-Washington voices in California and anti-Canberra voices in Victoria ... but you get that regardless of the configuration, just as we hear anti-Westminster voices.

Farage is a blinkered little-Englander, having jolly japes as an MEP poking fun at Johnny Foreigner whilst failing to notice that the world has changed.

Whilst I don't think he is necessarily racist, I do think he's xenophobic.

I'm a foster carer and I am pretty concerned with what i'm seeing.

Suppose i best confess now 2 lads came to live at my house last December, they were massively into football, I converted them to Rugby League and they now follow Huddersfield. Show me to the gallows.

In other words, Rotherham have yet again made a balls up but daren't admit it (hiding behind case complexity) because they know full well that balls ups got the them into special measures and all manner of other problems previously. They really are a lousy council, particularly in the area of children's services. How come the leader still has a job?

No, in other words