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Quote: cod'ead "It's not just the mayo, the sandwich bread itself is a major problem. Bread made by the Chorleywood process will fill you up at first but is digested so quickly, the satisfaction rarely lasts long. Even wholemeal and granary slices aren't filling, that's why I often see people eating a couple of store-bought sandwiches then looking to suuplement them with crisps or "chocolate" bars. If they made a sandwich from proper bread, they'd have no need for the "extras"'"

The Chorleywood process is vile.
I'm not sure that Chorleywood-bread is digested quickly but it does take very little chewing and it's in your stomach before you have chance to feel satisfied.
It also lacks flavour so isn't satisfying in that sense either.
Not only that but they don't have to tell you what (possibly GM) enzymes are in it, as they claim that the enzymes are killed by the baking.

But, basically, I agree with your post.

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Quote: WIZEB "Aye, I had some [iVillage Bakery White Sliced[/i cr@p, this morning with bacon and egg in a triple decker sarnie. Wasn't good. Hopefully it'll break up and be untasteable in my lunch of[iHeinz Tomato Soup[/i. (I'll use a couple of slices for filling). I'll wash that down with a large Brandy in a white coffee, then I'm off down the local for some Stella. Perhaps a delivered takeaway later because I doubt I'll be @rsed to cook.

If only I was joking.
Village Bakery (i.e. as in Village Bakery, Melmerby) is good bread and actually tastes of bread.
That's where I learned to make proper bread when Andrew Whitley owned and ran it.

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Quote: "The figures also show the proportion of women who are obese or overweight falls as the educational level rises.'"
Therefore if I were a laydeeeeeeeeeeee, I'd be sooooooooo thin. icon_cool.gif

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What do we feel about the current rash of cheap to make cookery programmes at a time of obesity?
Now I know they often serve to promote healthy and interesting eating, but does it really work that way?
Such as Minty might put some of the advice to good use, but the vast majority won't.
The programmes only serve (no pun honest) to make us feel hungry and go to the fridge.
Hence counterproductive.

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Quote: Stand-Offish "What do we feel about the current rash of cheap to make cookery programmes at a time of obesity?
Now I know they often serve to promote healthy and interesting eating, but does it really work that way?
Such as Minty might put some of the advice to good use, but the vast majority won't.
The programmes only serve (no pun honest) to make us feel hungry and go to the fridge.
Hence counterproductive.'"


Speak for yourself.

The only time they'd make me go to the fridge is to check whether I had the ingredients to rustle up something similar

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Quote: cod'ead "Speak for yourself.

The only time they'd make me go to the fridge is to check whether I had the ingredients to rustle up something similar'"

But then you're in the 'such as Minty' camp ... did you miss that bit?
And that is a small minority ... I am asserting.
And further to that might I suggest that the contents of the average person's fridge would not support the recipe, so they will scoff what they have instead.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Village Bakery (i.e. as in Village Bakery, Melmerby) is good bread and actually tastes of bread.
That's where I learned to make proper bread when Andrew Whitley owned and ran it.'"


Village Bakery White Sliced Batch Loaf.

Bought it Mon afty / Use by Thurs 1st.

Only any good for toasting come Tues morning.

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There is too much boredom eating.

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Quote: WIZEB "Village Bakery White Sliced Batch Loaf.

Bought it Mon afty / Use by Thurs 1st.

Only any good for toasting come Tues morning.'"


There you go, y'see, proper bread goes stale.
Have you never wondered about bread that stays "fresh" for a week?

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Quote: El Barbudo "Have you never wondered about bread that stays "fresh" for a week?'"


Not since I watched Jimmy's Food Factory, no. Quite the eye opener.

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Quote: El Barbudo "There you go, y'see, proper bread goes stale.
Have you never wondered about bread that stays "fresh" for a week?'"

I'm sure he has, but I'd reckon the vast majority of working families (or not working) would only be able to afford to buy daily fresh real bread loaves in their dreams, nor would have the time or inclination for a daily bake, so Rathbones @ 60p or Aldi special it is for them.

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The problem with those gorgeous fresh bread loaves is that they are often too large unless you are part of a tribe.
So rather than waste it you have a couple of slices too many.
Counterproductive again.
Although a trick for reviving bread that has gone hard, not blue with mould may I add, is to put it into the microwave and zap it for 10 seconds.
You can then have it warm or let it cool and it's pliable again.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I'm sure he has, but I'd reckon the vast majority of working families (or not working) would only be able to afford to buy daily fresh real bread loaves in their dreams, nor would have the time or inclination for a daily bake, so Rathbones @ 60p or Aldi special it is for them.'"

Unfortunately, it does often seem to be a binary choice, either buy rubbish or pay through the nose for so-called Artisan bread.
Why can't decent bread be priced lower than the fortune that is often charged for it?
I can't see that the extra proving-time should double the price.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Unfortunately, it does often seem to be a binary choice, either buy rubbish or pay through the nose for so-called Artisan bread.
Why can't decent bread be priced lower than the fortune that is often charged for it?
I can't see that the extra proving-time should double the price.'"

I don't think that is the case.
Going back to Aldi, they sell some bread that is inexpensive that is very tasty and good quality.
They do a sliced bloomer that is excellent.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Unfortunately, it does often seem to be a binary choice, either buy rubbish or pay through the nose for so-called Artisan bread.
Why can't decent bread be priced lower than the fortune that is often charged for it?
I can't see that the extra proving-time should double the price.'"


don't know if it's the same in the uk but in france where the french take their bread seriously the bread prices are effectively fixed by the government so a baguette in Calais should cost the same in Carcassonne

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