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Quote: Durham Giant "I cannot believe that Amelia Lilly has gone. Easily the best of the girls.

The programme loses more credibility everytime and even then it was starting from a pretty low level.'"


The four girls are the best of a bad bunch so it's a bit stupid that one of them had to go, but they've got to create a bit of controversy because the programme is just so bad.

She was the worst of the four girls last night so it was only fair she went - although it was an abysmal song choice for her style of singing.

I'm a little bit in love with Sophie Habibis though, so I'm glad she stayed in...

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Quote: Durham Giant "I cannot believe that Amelia Lilly has gone. Easily the best of the girls.

The programme loses more credibility everytime and even then it was starting from a pretty low level.'"

Yeah, shame she went.
Thought it was great she couldn't say anything at the end, why bother when it was clearly bollox.
Kelly Roland had to go scooting after her in a fit of guilt.
Poor Amelia.

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You wonder what the 'mentoring' adds to these acts?

If it was me I'd have given them a vocal coach to help with their singing and a few bob to spend on clothes. If you take Amelia she came on the auditions and judges house with her own image, she looked like quite a cool teenage girl that other girls would look up to, she was well spoken and confident and she sang really well. Then she goes into the X factor house, makeover people dye her hair and make her look ridiculous with make up, dress her in stupid clothes and give her a song totally wrong for a teenage girl to sing! I know we all take the mick out of X factor but you could tell to her it was important and she really wanted to give it a good go so no wonder she was upset at the end, she's been shafted by the makeover staff and whoever made her sing that song.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "You wonder what the 'mentoring' adds to these acts?

If it was me I'd have given them a vocal coach to help with their singing and a few bob to spend on clothes. If you take Amelia she came on the auditions and judges house with her own image, she looked like quite a cool teenage girl that other girls would look up to, she was well spoken and confident and she sang really well. Then she goes into the X factor house, makeover people dye her hair and make her look ridiculous with make up, dress her in stupid clothes and give her a song totally wrong for a teenage girl to sing! I know we all take the mick out of X factor but you could tell to her it was important and she really wanted to give it a good go so no wonder she was upset at the end, she's been shafted by the makeover staff and whoever made her sing that song.'"

Absolutely spot on sally cinnamon.
They let her down badly ... and I think they knew it.
I only saw a brief clip of her effort, but it wasn't the cute, striking young girl I first saw. It was as though they had added another ten years to her age and turned her into a witch.

There ought to be a record label called 'Fook the X-factor' where such as Amelia and the guy with the veneered teeth, who failed twice and lost to that dreadful Frankie Cockend, could go and make a recording.
I think they would make a fortune in showing the X-factor up.

PS Matt Cardle singing a Gary Barlow song ........?
It didn't work for me.
Not one of your best that one Gary!

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Quote: Stand-Offish "
There ought to be a record label called 'Fook the X-factor' where such as Amelia and the guy with the veneered teeth, who failed twice and lost to that dreadful Frankie Cockend, could go and make a recording.
I think they would make a fortune in showing the X-factor up.
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The guy with the veneered teeth was quite a good singer but I don't know who he would sell songs to. His image was a bit too over the top clean and polished, he looked too gay to appeal to young girls, and too gay to appeal to guys, he was probably just going to appeal to housewives and older women who thought wouldn't it be nice to have a son like that and I don't know if that's a big enough market, so X factor probably thought he wouldn't get many people actually inspired to phone vote for him. Frankie on the other hand, is not going to be good enough to make a career as a singer because he is pretty rank average, but he is someone they can use for 5 or 6 weeks to market to the teenage girl audience, they have been pushing this image of him as a stud who can't keep his hands off the ladies. I had to laugh when I saw something in a paper the other day saying him and Amelia were an item, and a quote from her saying "he's not actually as much of a bad boy party animal as people think"....course he isn't, the producers are just pushing that image, he's just a normal 18 year old lad that you could pull out of any college. Look for another story soon saying he's shacked up with one of the other girls now Amelia's gone, so they can do an article "Amelia's heartbreak" - hopefully she will be too smart and savvy to drop the quotes they want into their lap.

IMO the winner will come from one of the two scouse lads, but they both look like typical X factor winners that will have one Christmas number one and you will never hear from them again. If Amelia hadn't been on X factor and had just come out of nowhere like Pixie Lott with her original image before X factor messed about with her, I could see her doing well because young girls would have seen her as 'cool' and confident/independent, she was clearly in an ability range well above the other contestants.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "The guy with the veneered teeth was quite a good singer but I don't know who he would sell songs to. His image was a bit too over the top clean and polished, he looked too gay to appeal to young girls, and too gay to appeal to guys, he was probably just going to appeal to housewives and older women who thought wouldn't it be nice to have a son like that and I don't know if that's a big enough market, so X factor probably thought he wouldn't get many people actually inspired to phone vote for him. Frankie on the other hand, is not going to be good enough to make a career as a singer because he is pretty rank average, but he is someone they can use for 5 or 6 weeks to market to the teenage girl audience, they have been pushing this image of him as a stud who can't keep his hands off the ladies. I had to laugh when I saw something in a paper the other day saying him and Amelia were an item, and a quote from her saying "he's not actually as much of a bad boy party animal as people think"....course he isn't, the producers are just pushing that image, he's just a normal 18 year old lad that you could pull out of any college. Look for another story soon saying he's shacked up with one of the other girls now Amelia's gone, so they can do an article "Amelia's heartbreak" - hopefully she will be too smart and savvy to drop the quotes they want into their lap.

IMO the winner will come from one of the two scouse lads, but they both look like typical X factor winners that will have one Christmas number one and you will never hear from them again. If Amelia hadn't been on X factor and had just come out of nowhere like Pixie Lott with her original image before X factor messed about with her, I could see her doing well because young girls would have seen her as 'cool' and confident/independent, she was clearly in an ability range well above the other contestants.'"

I like the scousers, but the manufactured group Risk might be the ones this time.

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Amelia looks 16 going on 30. Awful image.

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Despite me quite liking Amelia while she was on the show I have started to find her a bit irritating this week. We haven't heard much from the others that were voted off but Amelia has been in the papers every day doing interviews and photographed in a tarty red dress posing for the paparazzi at various openings for this and that. She seems to be playing the life of a celebrity which is a dangerous route to go down when all she is actually 'famous' for so far is for auditioning at X factor and getting onto live shows then going out in the first week. Also her interviews are slightly too cocky, lots of people thought she was good, but she has been saying stuff like "I think Kelly just picked a name out of a hat" and "none of the other contestants could have done Billie Jean like I did" and "if it had been down to the public I would have got through because my fan base is huge".

This is the problem when you take a 16 year old girl who is quite cool and talented, give her a taste of glitz and glamour and surround her with sycophants telling her how great she is and how she's going to be a star. I also get the impression her parents have got money and are quite pushy, her older brother went on some reality show to get in the West End with Andrew Lloyd Webber at a similar age and they were pushing him and are now in the papers slagging off the X factor for booting their daughter out...that's not going to be a good thing if she gets seen as the 'girl with the pushy parents'.

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Skanky cocozza was shoite again as usual but he is just the worst of a bad bunch this year

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Quote: hopps "Skanky cocozza was shoite again as usual but he is just the worst of a bad bunch this year'"

Frankie Cockend is a joke.
He was so bad, even the panel couldn't make excuses for him.
GET RID!
He can't fooking sing!!!!
And his appearance?
It looks like he is stuck with the 'I've just sh/t my pants' look.

They are an ordinary bunch ... no superstars here.

Risk and Janet (although she is starting to irritate me) are OK.

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Have to agree, they are really poor this year.

I reckon people sometimes underrate the democracy of the market, every year critics of the X factor say they resent having a winner being pushed on them and being forced to buy their music but in reality they aren't - they can ride off the 15 min of fame to get a Christmas number one when they have some fans fresh from the show but after that, Simon Cowell and his chums don't tell people to buy their records, they give them a record deal and a chance and then see what the public think, if the public aren't interested then the record label drops them as has happened to many winners and will happen to last years winner as well. They will only survive if they are good, and looking at this year's bunch of contestants none of them will go on to make it.

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Every time I see the Welsh girl, I think of Geraldine icon_biggrin.gif

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Frankie coksucker lives on to assault our ears

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Frankie Cockend survived ... what a pr/ck.
Gary said......'this is the last time you'll be singing (SINGING???!!!!) for survival for a long time'. Excuse me, how does he know that?
The sad Irish man said 'I am keeping in the act that I think has the most potential'. Not daring to put it to the public vote in case Cockend was bottom and we would be rid.
The most potential means most controversial, simple as.
Line them all up and shoot them ... the judges I mean.
Manipulating, conniving b@stards the lot of them. icon_lol.gif

I don't really watch this shoite! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Why do losers have to be so magnanimous?
Nu Vibe should have just said something to the effect that... 'we are sorry to lose, but especially sorry to lose to that talentless, @rsehole Frankie'.
I think that would have found some resonance with the audience.
It would have been cut though! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Have to agree, they are really poor this year.

I reckon people sometimes underrate the democracy of the market, every year critics of the X factor say they resent having a winner being pushed on them and being forced to buy their music but in reality they aren't - they can ride off the 15 min of fame to get a Christmas number one when they have some fans fresh from the show but after that, Simon Cowell and his chums don't tell people to buy their records, they give them a record deal and a chance and then see what the public think, if the public aren't interested then the record label drops them as has happened to many winners and will happen to last years winner as well. They will only survive if they are good, and looking at this year's bunch of contestants none of them will go on to make it.'"


X Factor, by the very nature of appearing every year, is not set up to provide and promote artists for the long term. No sooner will last year's winner have his debut album out in the shops than this year's will be getting all the publicity to push their Xmas single.

At least this year's panel of judges has stopped pretending it's anything more than a popularity contest with a bit of singing thrown in.

Expect some story or other about Frankie being good to his mum and looking after abandoned kittens in his spare time to appear in the tabloid rags this week. The role of this year's Katie Waisell seemed to be nailed on for Kitty, but something tells me the public have very quickly sussed out this mock "bad boy" for the talentless scrote he is.

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SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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