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| Friday 13 December
Super-rich family buy £65m house after Johnson's victory.
Investors and the very wealthy celebrate the Conservatives’ 80-seat majority.
The collective wealth of the UK’s 16 billionaires on the Bloomberg billionaires index of the world’s 500 richest people increased by £2.1bn on Friday, according to Bloomberg, as the share prices of companies they controlled soared.
Excellent news. Now Britain can finally move forward, both with Brexit and with securing stability and economic growth for our great nation.
Saturday 14 December
Boris Johnson announces plans for spending spree in north.
JohnsonMonday 16 December
Johnson to tell new Tory MPs they must repay public’s trust.
Boris Johnson's tax plans face squeeze as public finances worsen.
OBR forecast means tax rises rather than tax cuts will be needed, say analysts.
Tuesday 17 December
Markets fear cliff-edge in December 2020.
UK company shares fall as markets face Brexit reality.
Pound tumbles amid Brexit cliff-edge fears; wage growth slows.
Johnson's Brexit threat has scrooged the pound.
Didn't last long, did it? Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
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| He know how to get the cabinet vegetables to chant (albeit the old disproved lies).
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| Quote: "He know how to get the cabinet vegetables to chant (albeit the old disproved lies).'"
That was embarrassing.
Lets just hope that Javid knows that 19000 old = 31000 new = 50,000 in total and isn't 50,000 new
I wonder how many of the "nodding dogs" were thinking WTF
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Quote: "The hard left are some of the most intolerant, aggressive, nasty people you could come across.
If we're doing quotes, here's one interpreted by many writers, thinkers and politicians in many languages over the years, versions of which have been attributed to Edmund Burke, Anselme Batbie, Victor Hugo, King Oscar II of Sweden, George Bernard Shaw, François Guizot, Georges Clemenceau, Benjamin Disraeli and of course Winston Churchill.
"if a person isn't a socialist by 25 they have no heart; if they're not a conservative by 35 they have no head."
Variants include:
"if a person isn't a socialist/liberal/revolutionary by 16/20/25 they have no heart; if they're still one/not a conservative by 35/40/60 they have no head."
RLFans is firm evidence of the theory.
I’m not sure that really works on the socialist-capitalist spectrum, except where the old have accumulated more capital, which is a major confounding factor. On the liberal-conservative, it is just a move from naive hope for a better future to sad nostalgia for a better past.
And it is all situational. There are loads of things historically, that were supported by conservatives then, that conservatives now would reject as outdated. That historical progress is now something to be conserved.
Edit - these are good examples:
https://proto-knowledge.blogspot.com/20 ... today.html
The G.K. Chesterton one is maybe most relevant, but the others give us a connection to some great silly old b——— thinkers of history.
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Quote: "The hard left are some of the most intolerant, aggressive, nasty people you could come across.
If we're doing quotes, here's one interpreted by many writers, thinkers and politicians in many languages over the years, versions of which have been attributed to Edmund Burke, Anselme Batbie, Victor Hugo, King Oscar II of Sweden, George Bernard Shaw, François Guizot, Georges Clemenceau, Benjamin Disraeli and of course Winston Churchill.
"if a person isn't a socialist by 25 they have no heart; if they're not a conservative by 35 they have no head."
Variants include:
"if a person isn't a socialist/liberal/revolutionary by 16/20/25 they have no heart; if they're still one/not a conservative by 35/40/60 they have no head."
RLFans is firm evidence of the theory.
I’m not sure that really works on the socialist-capitalist spectrum, except where the old have accumulated more capital, which is a major confounding factor. On the liberal-conservative, it is just a move from naive hope for a better future to sad nostalgia for a better past.
And it is all situational. There are loads of things historically, that were supported by conservatives then, that conservatives now would reject as outdated. That historical progress is now something to be conserved.
Edit - these are good examples:
https://proto-knowledge.blogspot.com/20 ... today.html
The G.K. Chesterton one is maybe most relevant, but the others give us a connection to some great silly old b——— thinkers of history.
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| Quote: "Friday 13 December
Super-rich family buy £65m house after Johnson's victory.
Investors and the very wealthy celebrate the Conservatives’ 80-seat majority.
The collective wealth of the UK’s 16 billionaires on the Bloomberg billionaires index of the world’s 500 richest people increased by £2.1bn on Friday, according to Bloomberg, as the share prices of companies they controlled soared.
Excellent news. Now Britain can finally move forward, both with Brexit and with securing stability and economic growth for our great nation.
Saturday 14 December
Boris Johnson announces plans for spending spree in north.
JohnsonMonday 16 December
Johnson to tell new Tory MPs they must repay public’s trust.
Boris Johnson's tax plans face squeeze as public finances worsen.
OBR forecast means tax rises rather than tax cuts will be needed, say analysts.
Tuesday 17 December
Markets fear cliff-edge in December 2020.
UK company shares fall as markets face Brexit reality.
Pound tumbles amid Brexit cliff-edge fears; wage growth slows.
Johnson's Brexit threat has scrooged the pound.
Didn't last long, did it? Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.'"
Employment continues to rise?
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| Quote: "Employment continues to rise?'"
and the Stock market continues to increase in value, ask Tim Martin if he's happy with the extra £40m his stock is now worth.
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| Quote: "and the Stock market continues to increase in value, ask Tim Martin if he's happy with the extra £40m his stock is now worth.'"
Why?
Don’t get me wrong, i’m happy that my pension pot is worth a bit more for now, I just don’t understand why you would it frame it in those terms.
Is Tim Martin’s level of happiness one of your primary barometers of how good something is? When you see... well anything really, do you wonder how Tim Martin feels about it? Why is his perspective of special interest?
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| Quote: "Why?
Don’t get me wrong, i’m happy that my pension pot is worth a bit more for now, I just don’t understand why you would it frame it in those terms.
Is Tim Martin’s level of happiness one of your primary barometers of how good something is? When you see... well anything really, do you wonder how Tim Martin feels about it? Why is his perspective of special interest?'"
It was an example of how the markets have reacted to the result, nothing more. Imagine if Corbyn had won, the markets would have collapsed and austerity would look like ambrosia.
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| Quote: "It was an example of how the markets have reacted to the result'"
"The Pound erased its post-election gains over the Euro and Dollar Tuesday amid reports that Prime Minister Boris Johnson will create a new 'no deal' Brexit cliff edge, which has led some analysts to suggest a further correction is in store for the British currency.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson reportedly plans to enshrine the end of 2020 into law as the end of the next phase in the Brexit negotiations and the 'transition' period the UK will enter once the withdrawal agreement is ratified and the country formally leaves the EU on January 31.
Pound Sterling was quoted lower against all its major rivals in noon trading Tuesday as a result of the report, after having reached a post-referendum high against the Euro in the immediate aftermath of last week's election and a two year high relative to the Dollar.
The Pound had rallied strongly against major rivals in recent weeks as markets saw the increasing prospect of a Conservative Party election victory not only seeing off the threat of an increasingly radical opposition party but also burying the threat of a 'no deal' Brexit for at least the foreseeable future.
Those gains are on the verge of melting away as markets respond to the renewed threat of an exit from the EU on World Trade Organization (WTO) terms."
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| Quote: ""The Pound erased its post-election gains over the Euro and Dollar Tuesday amid reports that Prime Minister Boris Johnson will create a new 'no deal' Brexit cliff edge, which has led some analysts to suggest a further correction is in store for the British currency.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson reportedly plans to enshrine the end of 2020 into law as the end of the next phase in the Brexit negotiations and the 'transition' period the UK will enter once the withdrawal agreement is ratified and the country formally leaves the EU on January 31.
Pound Sterling was quoted lower against all its major rivals in noon trading Tuesday as a result of the report, after having reached a post-referendum high against the Euro in the immediate aftermath of last week's election and a two year high relative to the Dollar.
The Pound had rallied strongly against major rivals in recent weeks as markets saw the increasing prospect of a Conservative Party election victory not only seeing off the threat of an increasingly radical opposition party but also burying the threat of a 'no deal' Brexit for at least the foreseeable future.
Those gains are on the verge of melting away as markets respond to the renewed threat of an exit from the EU on World Trade Organization (WTO) terms."'"
That is CURRENCY not STOCKS, but keep your rhetoric coming.
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| Quote: "It was an example of how the markets have reacted to the result, nothing more. Imagine if Corbyn had won, the markets would have collapsed and austerity would look like ambrosia.'"
Yeah, I get that, I’m just generally confused as to why you would present it in terms that (to me) seem so unrelatable.
If it was highlighting a benefit that many of us share (e.g. through private pensions), and even if it was smug one-upmanship that you own lots of shares, I could see it.
Do you identify strongly with Tim Martin, and feel that if he is winning, you’re winning?
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| Quote: "Yeah, I get that, I’m just generally confused as to why you would present it in terms that (to me) seem so unrelatable.
If it was highlighting a benefit that many of us share (e.g. through private pensions), and even if it was smug one-upmanship that you own lots of shares, I could see it.
Do you identify strongly with Tim Martin, and feel that if he is winning, you’re winning?'"
Not a case of identifying with anyone, just an example of how the markets reacted to the result.
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| Quote: "Not a case of identifying with anyone, just an example of how the markets reacted to the result.'"
I appreciate it was a throwaway line on an Internet forum.
However, it was an invitation to muse on the emotional impact of that market reaction for one specific person. Even if he is taken as representative of a wider group (Britain’s least needy?) it seems an odd way of looking at it from the perspective of the not-super-wealthy who are well-represented here.
Can you see why it looks odd to me? Does it not look odd to you, even as a ‘first thing that comes to mind’?
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| Quote: "I appreciate it was a throwaway line on an Internet forum.
However, it was an invitation to muse on the emotional impact of that market reaction for one specific person. Even if he is taken as representative of a wider group (Britain’s least needy?) it seems an odd way of looking at it from the perspective of the not-super-wealthy who are well-represented here.
Can you see why it looks odd to me? Does it not look odd to you, even as a ‘first thing that comes to mind’?'"
No, it doesn't appear odd to me at all, but then I am as staunch a Conservative as you are Socialist.
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| Quote: "No, it doesn't appear odd to me at all, but then I am as staunch a Conservative as you are Socialist.'"
I’m sure a lot of socialists would question my staunchness!
Is part of being a Conservative and viewing economic activity as a competition, celebrating your own relative defeat and its growing margin, because the competition itself is the important thing? Erm, congratulations...?
Tbf, I think I may have worked it out. It’s a ‘this is good news, including for this prominent Brexit-supporting liberals’ bogeyman (I had to Google him, btw), suck on that you Remain and Cringebyn voting losers’. Is that right? I feel we’ve made a connection.
Merry Christmas.
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