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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Answer the first question - are you saying no education until a vaccine?
There will be very few secondary schools that have Victorian buildings so come on be realistic.
what would you do if you had to make it work?'"
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As a MAT, we have primaries and secondaries, the majority of which are in post-industrial (coal & steel) areas. Some of the buildings are ancient. There is talk of Reception and Year 6 returning in June.
Forget about going back in the 19/20 year for a start. It's going to need longer than 2 or 3 weeks to get schools prepped for any sort of numbers. Most schools have only got double figure kids at the moment. I'd use the school holidays as a window to get the kids back. Presumably, parents will have some sort of childcare already in place for the school holidays (all may pose a threat to others in some way or another). That gives 6 weeks later down the line to get Reception kids prepped for primary, Year 6 prepped for secondary, Years 10 and 12 prepped for GCSE/A Level, come September, for the 20/21 year. I don't see the point of getting kids back for 6-7 weeks, then having them off again for the 6 week holidays. Start later, and use it as a slow rolling start to September. If Boris has got it right, like his apologists are saying, we should be flying by September.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "No.
As a MAT, we have primaries and secondaries, the majority of which are in post-industrial (coal & steel) areas. Some of the buildings are ancient. There is talk of Reception and Year 6 returning in June.
Forget about going back in the 19/20 year for a start. It's going to need longer than 2 or 3 weeks to get schools prepped for any sort of numbers. Most schools have only got double figure kids at the moment. I'd use the school holidays as a window to get the kids back. Presumably, parents will have some sort of childcare already in place for the school holidays (all may pose a threat to others in some way or another). That gives 6 weeks later down the line to get Reception kids prepped for primary, Year 6 prepped for secondary, Years 10 and 12 prepped for GCSE/A Level, come September, for the 20/21 year. I don't see the point of getting kids back for 6-7 weeks, then having them off again for 6 weeks holidays. Start later, and use it as a slow rolling start to September.'"
I would agree about this year but surely the same issues will still exist in September - the fabric of the school wont be any different, the make up/numbers of kids & teachers will be the same so what is going to change to allow it to happen?
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| Quote: Jukesays "Q1, Vulnerable
I completely agree re. the government's handling of this - it has been very poor.
Are you saying that our bodies don't deteriorate with age - that is just a ridiculous notion? If you look at those that got the letter a big chunk fell into the categories that I outlined.
There will always be a trade off - relax the lockdown and infections will increase but you cannot lock the country down forever - Germany has seen infections grow.
Perhaps if we all took a bit more ownership of our own behaviour and stayed alert it is our best chance of not contracting the virus. If we don't within 6 feet of anyone outside of our household for an extended period then our chances of infection will be significantly reduced - just a thought?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I would agree about this year but surely the same issues will still exist in September - the fabric of the school wont be any different, the make up/numbers of kids & teachers will be the same so what is going to change to allow it to happen?'"
The same issues will still exist, but you want the kids back into education, so I've given you a way of getting them back.
The only change I see, which may give us a better chance, is that people will be more accustomed to social distancing by then. If the staggered release is showing signs of success, then it might just work. I'm thinking of it in terms of the start of a marathon. You don't just release everyone at once. It would be carnage.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Perhaps if we all took a bit more ownership of our own behaviour and stayed alert'"
The slogan worked on one person. I'd written it off a total disaster.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Answer the first question - are you saying no education until a vaccine?
Everything is barrier kids want inspiration, teachers that find solutions not dead ends. If you think work patterns are not going change because of this you are delusional - how many are currently working from home? If it meant getting their kids to school they would find a way.
Most buses are empty outside of rush hour - perhaps we need to encourage our kids to walk or cycle to work - splitting the shifts should reduce the burden - isn't that after all what the Government is suggesting when everyone returns to work?
There will be very few secondary schools that have Victorian buildings so come on be realistic.
Teachers haven't suddenly magicked kids - and they don't all have them - so work a rota that enables the best use of the resource - what would you do if you had to make it work?'"
You do seem to be ignoring the fact that teachers themselves dont feel comfortable teaching kids, who may or may not be carrying the virus and that's before we get to the logistics of getting the kids to school, parents working but, with no childcare (either official or through family members).
Assuming that there can be a restart and on the basis that class sizes have to shrink to make allowance for social distancing, maybe the "start up" could be kids going in every other week, which, although a reduction in teaching, this could be supplemented with some home tutoring and "on line" lessons.
It doesn't help that, after such a long period of Tory rule, class sizes have grown and most classes are "bulging" with pupils.
Within the private education system, I'm sure that the start up will be simpler and quicker to get going but, perhaps we shouldn't go there
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I completely agree re. the government's handling of this - it has been very poor.
Are you saying that our bodies don't deteriorate with age - that is just a ridiculous notion? If you look at those that got the letter a big chunk fell into the categories that I outlined.
There will always be a trade off - relax the lockdown and infections will increase but you cannot lock the country down forever - Germany has seen infections grow.
Perhaps if we all took a bit more ownership of our own behaviour and stayed alert it is our best chance of not contracting the virus. If we don't within 6 feet of anyone outside of our household for an extended period then our chances of infection will be significantly reduced - just a thought?'"
Yes, if we all just "Stay Alert" that will help.
All news outlets reporting a large increase in road traffic and public transport traffic etc this morning.
Wonder if they remembered to wear face masks as per the briefing some 20hours later by the government.
Oh oh, that was a bit late wasnt it
Maybe they should have released all the details before urging everyone to get back to work?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "
Congratulations you have encapsulated government strategy in one.
Give out confusing and contradictory messages Bojo changes come into play Monday, Raab changes come into play Wednesday.
Last week don’t wear masks, This week wear masks in enclosed spaces.
Meanwhile when it all goes wrong th eTories will be able to say that it was because the public did not stay alert, did not follow the advice. It is all their fault.
Then the SUN will have pictures of idiots getting drunk on the beaches and in the parks and the Tories will come out of it smelling of roses saying.
Nothing to do with us it was all the public’s fault.
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"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Congratulations you have encapsulated government strategy in one.
Give out confusing and contradictory messages Bojo changes come into play Monday, Raab changes come into play Wednesday.
Last week don’t wear masks, This week wear masks in enclosed spaces.
Meanwhile when it all goes wrong th eTories will be able to say that it was because the public did not stay alert, did not follow the advice. It is all their fault.
Then the SUN will have pictures of idiots getting drunk on the beaches and in the parks and the Tories will come out of it smelling of roses saying.
Nothing to do with us it was all the public’s fault.'"
Correct
Much easier to come out with a 3 or 4 word "slogan" and blame everyone else.
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Congratulations you have encapsulated government strategy in one.
Give out confusing and contradictory messages Bojo changes come into play Monday, Raab changes come into play Wednesday.
Last week don’t wear masks, This week wear masks in enclosed spaces.
Meanwhile when it all goes wrong th eTories will be able to say that it was because the public did not stay alert, did not follow the advice. It is all their fault.
Then the SUN will have pictures of idiots getting drunk on the beaches and in the parks and the Tories will come out of it smelling of roses saying.
Nothing to do with us it was all the public’s fault.'"
Correct
Much easier to come out with a 3 or 4 word "slogan" and blame everyone else.
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| Johnson and his cabinet are deliberately giving out mixed messages, loose rules, contradictory advice, and confusing slogans in the hope that the onus (and more importantly, the blame) can be shifted from the government to the public. Give it a week and the tabloids will be running a daily shaming feature of people meeting in parks and city centres called 'the lockdown breakers'. The comments sections will be filled with "they didn't stay alert" comments.
It's the classic pupil/teacher exchange -
Pupil - "My friend told me to do it"
Teacher - "If your friend told you to jump in front of a truck, would you?"
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
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"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Johnson and his cabinet are deliberately giving out mixed messages, loose rules, contradictory advice, and confusing slogans in the hope that the onus (and more importantly, the blame) can be shifted from the government to the public. Give it a week and the tabloids will be running a daily shaming feature of people meeting in parks and city centres called 'the lockdown breakers'. The comments sections will be filled with "they didn't stay alert" comments.
It's the classic pupil/teacher exchange -
Pupil - "My friend told me to do it"
Teacher - "If your friend told you to jump in front of a truck, would you?"'"
It's already happening
Hes telling us now that it's down to the public to use common sense. Its up to us to "stay alert"!
You could almost hear the deflection in his tone that if anything goes wrong it's out fault.
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| More importantly, where are people supposed to get a supply of masks from, which are now required for enclosed spaces ??
Masks will be harder to get hold of than toilet rolls and pasta were a few weeks ago and remebering that some idiots will be stock piling the bloody things, there could be serious consequances for some of the people / services that really need them.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Congratulations you have encapsulated government strategy in one.
Give out confusing and contradictory messages Bojo changes come into play Monday, Raab changes come into play Wednesday.
Last week don’t wear masks, This week wear masks in enclosed spaces.
Meanwhile when it all goes wrong th eTories will be able to say that it was because the public did not stay alert, did not follow the advice. It is all their fault.
Then the SUN will have pictures of idiots getting drunk on the beaches and in the parks and the Tories will come out of it smelling of roses saying.
Nothing to do with us it was all the public’s fault.'"
You lefties really do want the state to control your lives - are you incapable of staying staff all by yourself - you should be embarrassed, I would be. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Maybe the slogan should be "Grow up and Grow some"
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