How can Labour specify the cost of nationalisation? It would depend on share prices at the time it occurred. Do they have a crystal ball?

You're forgetting Sal has done a fully costed model for the Labour Manifesto Dally. MADNESS

Disastrous BBC interview for May there. Wow.

You're right - the workers are to blame, the idiots.

I wouldn't work in a place where I didn't think I was getting the correct pay and conditions, this is not a nanny state - perhaps things weren't quite so bad for most of the workers at Ashley's RDC - just a thought.

*Right wing hat on* They should have tried harder at school, or they should just get better jobs. *Right wing hat off*

Good for you - some people don't have that choice though.

It's a sad state of affairs when we've arrived at a point where not giving a f**k about other people is, in some quarters, a badge of pride.

So, an employer breaks employment law and it's the workers fault for taking the job.
Following this logic, if someone gets injured at work due to poor or non existent health and safety practice's, would that also be "their own fault" ?
Just asking as your world seems somewhat skewed ?

The two things are not quite the same - would you work in a place that was unsafe no, would you work in a place where they didn't pay you the minimum wage no - so how is it you can make these choices which are common sense but you support others who can't make these simple choices?

I know you lefties think the state should own and control everything we do and give us a bit of pocket money as long it doesn't include you and you sit at the top of the food chain. There has to come a point where individuals have to take some responsibility for their own actions?

I asked have you ever offered to earn less so others can earn more - I take it given you didn't respond that is a big no!! Says it all real talk the talk but don't walk the walk - so who has the skewed opinions?

I also talked about the NHS - again no response, talked about taxation no response - not a huge surprise like a lot of lefties the arrogance of believing their ethics are on a higher plane when in fact your actions show exactly the opposite

Yes - 3 times in the last 2 years; and it doesn't help your argument to characterise people who care about the welfare of those most in need as well as their own, as raging lefties who want the state to own everything.

What's at stake here is an entirely different kind of economy - and given the parlous state of the UK right now, it's not unreasonable to be prepared to support it.

What's at stake is an style of economy that has been shown on numerous occasions not work - so I think it is entirely unreasonable to expect support for what is a flawed arrangement.

Show me a Socialist state that is thriving?