like I've said, I'm happy to let your hate fuelled vengeful God to strike me down with a bolt of lightening, I'm playing poker in a casino later, so it's a nice public place, so when he does it can be all over the media.

or maybe, it's a fairy story, told to keep idiots in check?

Sin entered the world when mankind rebelled. We are responsible for it.

Keeps idiot in check how, exactly?

And God doesn't strike people down under the present covenant.

It's only taken 150 pages.

Can anybody tell me who created the creator?

So we invented a force more powerful and more deadly (because people die from it), than your God ?

Christ, we're good aren't we ?

Or did we invent the God as well ?

No, we didn't invent it, but it was a natural consequence of our rebellion.

Interesting question, but the Bible does not indicate that God was created. All we have is John 1:1,

[iIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.[/i

So there are things in this world that have nothing whatsoever to do with a Creator, there are things that exist that were not made by a God at all ?

Like the Giants Causeway for instance ?

God created free will. Sin and death are consequences of our disobedience.

you're an idiot, and you appear to be in check

and I am giving your spiteful of a god a chance, prove his existence through me, in a public place, can't be too much to ask, I mean, this guy (white, with a beard, from Jerusalem, with the ability to impregnate women without consent (which makes him a rapist) who wiped out mankind because they displeased him (which makes him a murderer) and then flooded the planet (but he didn't FACTS tell us that))

whilst I'm waiting I'll read about Scientology, at least their fantasy is interesting.

Sin, and death, and viruses (which are also living organisms), and disease, and the Giants Causeway - what do the Creationists think of your theories ?

We'll have to compare notes Standee, I'm reading about the Mormon's they're ing mental.