That's fine but how would you then collate the results.


Lets say, for the sake of arguement that everyones opinion stayed the same and leave vote was roughly down the middle, we therefore have

48 % Remain
26 % Leave (hard brexit)
26% Leave (soft Brexit)

What do we do next

If we go to a second referendum, it should only be Leave with no deal (WTO terms) or leave with Customs deal.
Granted, there would be plenty of folk that dont quite understand the question but, hey ho, that's life.

Or, better still, our elected members of parliament have the same vote, which would bring the issue to a conclusion, albeit with a number of unhappy MP's and unhappy voters but, again, that's life and just to help make things simple, it should be declared a "free vote". Problem solved and let's get on with our lives.

But it's not round numbers is it? The Remain/Thicko vote last time wasn't 48%/52%, it was 16,141,241/17,410,742. The referendum wasn't cancelled in case there was a dead heat. The chances of it happening are minuscule.

The point I'm making is that, given your 3 questions, the lleave vote would be split (and whether their 52 ?? was split equally or by another way) it would mean that "remain" would have the highest percentage.


So, what then Sherlock ?

We clearly need to adopt a 'make your own adventure' approach to any second referendum. If my ballot is less than 200 pages long and I can complete it in under 3 hours, there is clearly be something wrong.

We've boxed ourselves in - all options are infeasible.

Just take the lid off the box and maybe put Boris, Rees Mogg and Corbyn in there, oh and Mrs May, then put the lid back on

It appears to me that whatever the Government wants is quick becoming irrelevant since their red lines prevent any kind of compromise across Parliament. The hard Brexit mob prefer “no deal” or at the very least no customs union and no single market and no Irish backstop. This approach is tying the hands of Government who can’t get anything through unless the whole party and the DUP back it. The chances of them all agreeing a solution are nil. Meanwhile the Labour leadership have been trying to ride a number of different horses at the same time and options are quickly running out.

MPs from all parties however could gather enough numbers to outnumber the hard Brexit mob, government and Labour leadership and pick off members of the cabinet if they can agree a common compromise. That can come in stages via amendments. I can see MPs coalescing around a Norway option as it avoids the risks and divisions of another referendum. In my view it’s not as good as remain but it gives MPs a get out clause over calling another referendum, safeguards the economy and draws a line under the whole shambles. While the Government is unlikely to extend A50 or rule out no deal Parliament can do that. The hard Brexit mob aren’t large enough to force through no deal – it might be on the statute now but I doubt it’ll be there come 29 March.

It’ll be interesting to see if the softer Brexit members of the cabinet or Labour leadership get behind a compromise as the clock ticks.

If the Leave vote is 52% we leave. On what terms depends on the voting for the 2 sub-options within the option. I can't understand why it is difficult to comprehend.

There is nothing out there in any polls to suggest the result would be any different this time around - the likelihood is a increase for leave due to many thinking Parliament has its own agenda i.e. remain and the vote of the people is being ignored. Even the arch remainers have to accept there was as much negative propaganda from the remain side i.e. the economy will implode, taxation will immediately need to be increased etc. The problem for remain was the public didn't believe it and that has proved to be correct.

I agree with what you're saying apart from every single word.

Latest polling consistently shows a lead for remaining in the EU so presumably you made that up. Seriously, 30 seconds on google will disabuse you of that notion. At no point in the run up to the referendum did remain have a lead in the polls of the magnitude they do today, so there is no evidence to suggest an increased share for the quitlings.

You've similarly wholly invented a world were the economic harm, major firms leaving the UK and job losses failed to materialise as predicted. So on that basis the remainers aren't going to "have to accept" the sort of intellectual rigor behind the "la la la I can't hear you" mentality that leads you to label sensible economic analysis as "propaganda".

The problem for remainers is that we lost.

The problem for leavers is that they won. Its leaders want to be matyred heroes for a lost cause, not actually take responsibility for the thing. That’s why they’re moving towards harder options despite May serving up the vast majority of what they wanted.

You say that the "public didnt believe them" and you are right. However, if the remain "propaganda" was all lies, please explain why pretty much all politicians (apart from the hardcore leavers) dont want a "no deal" Brexit.

IF Mrs May, bumles along, still hoping for her deal (plus a few tweaks) can get through and we end up with no deal, I think you may find the prophecy of "project fear" to be a hell of a lot more accurate than you believe.

Let's all hope that it doesn't come to that or, you may just see a shrinking ecconomy (its not exactly growing at the moment) and certain taxes already look like they will need to increase as our logal government services are all cut to the bone (and beyond), policing is in crisis.

The problem with many leavers is the belief of a utopian future, hich, even after 2 years, NOBODY has been able to put forward a decent arguement to substantiate, NOBODY.

It would sure make life interesting though

Quote: Sal Paradise "There is nothing out there in any polls to suggest the result would be any different this time around - the likelihood is a increase for leave due to many thinking Parliament has its own agenda i.e. remain and the vote of the people is being ignored. Even the arch remainers have to accept there was as much negative propaganda from the remain side i.e. the economy will implode, taxation will immediately need to be increased etc. The problem for remain was the public didn't believe it and that has proved to be correct.'" You’re a complete fraud. Why do people think they can just make stuff up and people will believe them. https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/i ... e/?removed

Quote: Sal Paradise "There is nothing out there in any polls to suggest the result would be any different this time around - the likelihood is a increase for leave due to many thinking Parliament has its own agenda i.e. remain and the vote of the people is being ignored. Even the arch remainers have to accept there was as much negative propaganda from the remain side i.e. the economy will implode, taxation will immediately need to be increased etc. The problem for remain was the public didn't believe it and that has proved to be correct.'" You’re a complete fraud. Why do people think they can just make stuff up and people will believe them. https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/i ... e/?removed

Surely the problem remain had was the status quo would just continue, whilst the brexiter's could promise the earth, which they did, with bells on.

The problem was, seventeen million people believed the guff from Bojo et al, which has proved to be incorrect.

This is one of the big failures with remainers, that they dismiss anybody who voted leave as uneducated, uninformed and that they all believed it would be as dreamy as some Brexiteers made out.

Reality is most will have know that leaving wouldn’t have been as “utopian” as politicians made out when campaigning. Considering a decent percent of leave votes were older people, they’ve lived long enough to experience and know what politicians claim in campaigns doesn’t equate to coming true, so it’s just ridiculous and sounds like pure bitterness when remainers try and stereotype leave voters as all the same and in a derogatory manner.