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| Quote: Sal Paradise "What happens if they have another vote and the vote delivers the same result - do we leave with no deal, or do we keep having votes until we get a remain vote?'"
Surely it depends what the question would be, if it said do you wish for a "No Deal"style exit, then that's what should happen.
It's such a shame that the Bojo's of this world didn't campaign for a No Deal scenario, instead they lied to the country that a deal would be a piece of cake & the N.H.S. would be wadded.
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Surely it depends what the question would be, if it said do you wish for a "No Deal"style exit, then that's what should happen.
It's such a shame that the Bojo's of this world didn't campaign for a No Deal scenario, instead they lied to the country that a deal would be a piece of cake & the N.H.S. would be wadded.'"
Bojo is like Corbyn, self infornt of everything.
He was advocating remain until he thought he could become PM and then Gove stabbed him in the back, justice really.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "What happens if they have another vote and the vote delivers the same result - do we leave with no deal, or do we keep having votes until we get a remain vote?'"
Do you mean another referendum or a second parliamentary vote on May’s deal if/when it is voted down tonight?
If the former, I agree a second referendum is not a sensible approach. Then again, it is identifying sensible ways forward that is the tougher task. The only type of referendum that might make sense, imo, would be for type of Brexit, but the EU are hardly going to agree a menu of options in advance, so it risks being too vague again.
If it is the latter, then crashing out is the default, but who knows. Feckin’ shambles.
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| There are only 229 configurations of a polygon formed by adding three vertices to each side of a triangle.
F00k me, Theresa even managed to lose by one more than that!
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "What happens if they have another vote and the vote delivers the same result - do we leave with no deal, or do we keep having votes until we get a remain vote?'"
Let's just keep voting.
The old blue-rinse fuddie-duddies will all die off sooner or later.
Then the young, and the future, will get their way.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "What happens if they have another vote and the vote delivers the same result - do we leave with no deal, or do we keep having votes until we get a remain vote?'"
If we have another referendum and it loses and remain goes 0-2 down then best of 5 surely?
Sure if we keep voting until it goes with remain then Europe WON’T be standing there waiting and telling us to drop our pants, bend over and not bother with the lube.
It would be like dumping your wife for a new woman and then going back months later saying “I didn’t mean that, can I come back please”.
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| Anyways, never mind this Brexit b0llox.
What about these bloody boat people flooding over.
Have we got any figures since the weekend?
Are we still in high risk, major incident mode?
Is our island safe?
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| Another referendum is the only viable option now. 'No deal' is even less popular than May's deal among MPS
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Another referendum is the only viable option now. 'No deal' is even less popular than May's deal among MPS'"
Another referendum is just ridiculous, it wont solve anything.
It looks like "taking control" will leave us begging on our hands and knees to extend the deadline.
Talk about lions led by donkeys. The shower in parliament are failing EVERYONE.
We should put a bid in for Putin
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| Quote: ThePrinter "If we have another referendum and it loses and remain goes 0-2 down then best of 5 surely?
Sure if we keep voting until it goes with remain then Europe WON’T be standing there waiting and telling us to drop our pants, bend over and not bother with the lube.
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As you will be aware, the vast majority of those wanting another referendum do so because the country is now more aware of the implications of leaving. If the vote was to leave, providing the leave campaign wasn't illegally bankrolled again, there could be no complaints over the result.
Quote: ThePrinter "It would be like dumping your wife for a new woman and then going back months later saying “I didn’t mean that, can I come back please”'"
Whereas leaving without reconsidering is like going to Dignitas because you think you have a fatal illness, but once in Switzerland finding out you are actually ok, but you go ahead with it anyway no matter how ill informed you were originally.
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| Can see it being either a softer Brexit now or another referendum. Another referendum doesn't get me feeling very enthusiastic.
I can see MPs going for the Norway model.
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| Quote: tigertot "As you will be aware, the vast majority of those wanting another referendum do so because the country is now more aware of the implications of leaving. If the vote was to leave, providing the leave campaign wasn't illegally bankrolled again, there could be no complaints over the result.
Whereas leaving without reconsidering is like going to Dignitas because you think you have a fatal illness, but once in Switzerland finding out you are actually ok, but you go ahead with it anyway no matter how ill informed you were originally.'"
What would you want the question to be on the ballot paper for the second referendum
May's deal
No deal
Miracle deal
Remain
You say there could be no complaints about the result but, if it remained close (in either direction) NOTHING would be solved.
I voted remain and still believe this to be the best position for the UK. However, Mrs May should have gathered ALL of the support in Parliament immediately after the referendum and found the best way forward, through consensus.
Instead, right from the start, she insisted on doing it her way, without taking opinion from others.
First of all she should resign and then the new PM, either through a GE or elected within the Tories has to "beg" for an extension to article 50.
Although you speak about people now being better informed and I fuly agree with you on this, those that voted leave have become far more entrenched in their views and nowhere is there any evidence of a significant in public opinion.
Finally, the "peoples vote" campaign is being driven by the "remain" side to keep us in the EU and whilst I would happily remain, there is something fundamentally wrong in driving this agenda (unless public opinion had moved significantly since the original vote).
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "What would you want the question to be on the ballot paper for the second referendum
May's deal
No deal
Miracle deal
Remain
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Unless Parliament can agree a consensus on what Leave we were voting for it would have to be ;
Remain
Leave - If Leave
-Option 1 hard Brexit
-Option 2 soft Brexit (to be defined in advance)
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| Quote: tigertot "Unless Parliament can agree a consensus on what Leave we were voting for it would have to be ;
Remain
Leave - If Leave
-Option 1 hard Brexit
-Option 2 soft Brexit (to be defined in advance)'"
And would you count both lots of leave votes together or have "we" split the leave vote to help a remain outcome
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| As much as I would like the latter that would be difficult to get past even the thickest Leaver. Which is why I didn't put 3 straight options.
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