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| Quote toast="toast"The reason why thatcher came into power was because the labour government was in a mess and influential rock stars like Weller and Strummer were highly critical of labour and were threatening to vote Tory. In 83 it was over some piece of rock in the Atlantic, that the vast majority neither knew nor cared about, and still don't. In 87 she had the malignant backing of the Murdoch press and it's vitriolic rhetoric of Neil kinnock.'"
Absolutely correct in every respect, Labour were unelectable under Callaghan, Foot and Kinnock.
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| Quote rover49="rover49"You do realise that the highest unemployment levels have always been under Tory governance don't you, in fact under Thatcher it was close to 5 million (including all the fiddled out figures, such as a man claiming for his wife if both were out of work).'"
How is that a 'fact' when the reported figures were around 3 million? I think you need to take a look in a dictionary to establish the definition of the word 'fact'. The unemployment figures already stood at around 1.7 million when Thatcher took office so she didn't 'treble' the number and nor was she responsible for 3 million being unemployed.
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| Quote Knuckles="Knuckles"Yes sure whatever, I love it even better when guys like you smart so much.'"
The only person in this conversation getting at all worked up is you, cockle. I was merely pointing out the staggering inaccuracy of your comparison.
Incidentally, what kind of guy am I? 
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Absolutely correct in every respect, Labour were unelectable under Callaghan, Foot and Kinnock.'"
Correct. Although I still maintain that Blair would never have been elected without the work that Kinnock put in to sort out the party.
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| The mob, great! I've got an idea. Get the beer and sandwiches on Harold. Why don't you lot get yourselves together and form a union, then you can spout garbage all day long to each other.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Correct. Although I still maintain that Blair would never have been elected without the work that Kinnock put in to sort out the party.'"
I should also add that the Tories were unelectable under Hague, Smith and Howard even though their policies have not changed one jot since '97.
With a mellowing of the years I am coming to like Major though - heard him on a radio program over Easter speaking for an hour on one of his specialist subjects The Edwardian Music Hall featuring his father and step mother - a fascinating hour it was.
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| Quote Knuckles="Knuckles"The mob, great! I've got an idea. Get the beer and sandwiches on Harold. Why don't you lot get yourselves together and form a union, then you can spout garbage all day long to each other.'"
Being drunk before dark is not an endearing trait.
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| The reason why i asked knuckles is fairly simple, and really not offensive at all. I was genuinely interested in what it was like serving in the armed forces as a women or homosexual under Thatcher.
I dont know why they got upset about that, i cant be the first person to ask them about it. Its an interesting story.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"How is that a 'fact' when the reported figures were around 3 million? I think you need to take a look in a dictionary to establish the definition of the word 'fact'. The unemployment figures already stood at around 1.7 million when Thatcher took office so she didn't 'treble' the number and nor was she responsible for 3 million being unemployed.'"
So when Thatcher allows social housing to be sold off and not replaced, she's not to blame because subsequent governments failed to reverse the policy, but when she substantially increases the number of unemployed left by the previous government she's not responsible for that either? I get it now - she can't be expected to have reduced unemployment because of the mess left by the previous government, but subsequent Labour governments could of course have been expected to reverse the damage caused by her flawed policies. Makes perfect sense, that.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"
With a mellowing of the years I am coming to like Major though - heard him on a radio program over Easter speaking for an hour on one of his specialist subjects The Edwardian Music Hall featuring his father and step mother - a fascinating hour it was.'"
Personally, I had no hate left when Major took over.
My quota had all been used up with what had gone before.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"So when Thatcher allows social housing to be sold off and not replaced, she's not to blame because subsequent governments failed to reverse the policy, but when she substantially increases the number of unemployed left by the previous government she's not responsible for that either? I get it now - she can't be expected to have reduced unemployment because of the mess left by the previous government, but subsequent Labour governments could of course have been expected to reverse the damage caused by her flawed policies. Makes perfect sense, that.'"
Logic has never been that popular with right-leaning folk.
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