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| Quote: Ajw71 "It's all the Tories fault. If Labour were in office you would be entilted to £1M per week, live in a big mansion with a swimming pool and have 10 butlers to wait on your every need. This is a fact.'"
Quote: Ajw71 "What is the point your Intellectual Eminence? Are you suggesting that the disabled were treated fairly and in accordance with the law under Labour? I can assure you that was not the case, at least for children, during that era.'"
Do you both think I sit here I make things up for the sake of it??? Of course whats happening is this governments fault, they are the ones who made the rules on the Welfare Reform Bill, not Labour. All I ask for is to be treated fairly, just like I have been since 1998 when I was diagnosed. I'm not lying, I'm not exaggerating, I try and link articles when and where possible because there are many, many people who think like you two, either have no idea what is happening, can't believe what is happening or don't really care about what is happening because it doesn't affect them.
Everyone is just a hearbeat away from becoming sick and disabled and you are the sort of people who would be the first ones raising the roof if this was happening to you, as I know you are capable of Dally with hospitals you have encounted.
Yes, this is really happening to the sick and disabled. Men in comas are being found fit for work, disabled people from birth are given one year to "get better" then having to join the dole queue and disabled people are being told to get a proper job (a la IDS referring to Remploy workers) and all in the name of saving money from this callous, nasty government.
The sooner this shower "do a u-turn" right out of Number 10 the better.
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| Quote: Hull White Star "Do you both think I sit here I make things up for the sake of it??? '"
Of course not. But all governments are poor in this country in this regard.
One think I've noticed in my lifetime is that in times of high unemployment claimants are branded scroungers and there are moves to cut benefits whereas in times of 'full' employment the real scroungers are given good benefits. It ironic. (NB I am not talking of the sick / disabled here).
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| Quote: Dally "Of course not. But all governments are poor in this country in this regard.
One think I've noticed in my lifetime is that in times of high unemployment claimants are branded scroungers and there are moves to cut benefits whereas in times of 'full' employment the real scroungers are given good benefits. It ironic. (NB I am not talking of the sick / disabled here).'"
Its only the press that call benefit claimants scroungers. They whip the public up into such a frenzy. I have been claiming benefits for my illness for many years - DLA is not an out of work benefit, and I never heard a murmour about being a scrounger or "shop a cheat" campaigns nor do I recall Labour ministers telling twitter/facebook users if they have a disabled friend who used social networking to shop them as they can work like Tory rlNadine Dorriesrl disgustingly did.
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| And the latest from Porky Pickles?
rlProblem families told "stop blaming others"rl
I wonder if he can make a start on some of the problem families closer to his heart, who continue to blame others for their situation? The Osbornes and Camorons spring readily to mind.
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| Quote: cod'ead "And the latest from Porky Pickles?
rlProblem families told "stop blaming others"rl
I wonder if he can make a start on some of the problem families closer to his heart, who continue to blame others for their situation? The Osbornes and Camorons spring readily to mind.'"
They couldn't possibly do that. The entire strategy of this government (that everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault) would be in tatters.
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| Quote: cod'ead "And the latest from Porky Pickles?
rlProblem families told "stop blaming others"rl
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From that report ...
Quote: cod'ead "Under government criteria, a troubled family is one that meets five out of seven criteria
The first three of those criteria plus the last one are usually a direct cause of the other three so in that respect he has got that bit right.
How on earth he is going to "tackle the issue" in an era of high unemployment is beyond me, I'm glad its not me who has to solve the conundrum but the long term unemployed, the mentally ill and the long term disabled are going to be right at the back of the queue in the job centres even when companies start recruiting again, tough words or not.
He freely admits that when he was the leader of Bradford Council he had 1760 "problem families" in the city and presumably there are still 1760 "problem familes" in the city because he didn't have a solution then and frankly he isn't offering one now - what he is doing is waving a flag and beating his 4XL chest for the benefit of "Outraged of Buckinghamshire".
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| Quote: major hound "They couldn't possibly do that. The entire strategy of this government (that everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault) would be in tatters.'"
Think Pickles must have picked up Giedeons spin sheet today. Its all the Eurozones fault the state of Britains economy. Makes a refreshing change to hear something other than "the last labour governments fault".
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| Now Theresa May says that unless you're rlearning more than £25,700 gross, you're too poor to bring your spouse into the country.rl
So given this government's joined-up thinking, when can we expect Ian Duncan Smith to announce an increase in the minimum wage to £13.38 to reflect May's definition of poor?
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| Quote: cod'ead "Now Theresa May says that unless you're earning more than £18,600, you're too poor to bring your spouse into the country.
So given this government's joined-up thinking, when can we expect Ian Duncan Smith to announce an increase in the minimum wage to £9.67 to reflect May's definition of poor?'"
That'll be a bit of a blow to the cleaner who cleans around her desk every morning on £7.85 an hour, whether or not that cleaner has a spouse outside or inside the country, makes you wonder how these London Living Wage employees survive really doesn't it ?
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cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "That'll be a bit of a blow to the cleaner who cleans around her desk every morning on £7.85 an hour, whether or not that cleaner has a spouse outside or inside the country, makes you wonder how these London Living Wage employees survive really doesn't it ?'"
Just edited it mate, the original figure was net of tax & NI, the gross figure is actually £25,700, so an hourly rate of £13.38
Either way, it won't deflect from Robert Jay handing Gideon his a[ir[/ise on a plate at Leveson this afty
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| Quote: cod'ead "Now Theresa May says that unless you're rlearning more than £25,700 gross, you're too poor to bring your spouse into the country.rl
So given this government's joined-up thinking, when can we expect Ian Duncan Smith to announce an increase in the minimum wage to £13.38 to reflect May's definition of poor?'"
And this is why I became a British Citizen when I did because I could see things like this happening to me. Its strange that you're deemed rich enough earning £7,500 pa to support a sick loved who cannot work but need £25,700 to support a foreigner?
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| Quote: cod'ead "
Either way, it won't deflect from Robert Jay handing Gideon his a[ir[/ise on a plate at Leveson this afty'" #
Ice cream, popcorn and a glass of Baileys at the ready for this afternoons entertainment
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This is the reality of what is happening. I hope the Ajw71's and Dallys of this country read this and can finally accept what is happening is real, and it is this governments fault, not for Karens death but the way in which she was scared, vunerable and shockingly treated by this government and the shambles that is Atos.
RIP Karen - it will not be in vain.
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This is the reality of what is happening. I hope the Ajw71's and Dallys of this country read this and can finally accept what is happening is real, and it is this governments fault, not for Karens death but the way in which she was scared, vunerable and shockingly treated by this government and the shambles that is Atos.
RIP Karen - it will not be in vain.
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| Just as a side issue and if anyone was in any doubt as to how desperate the current government are, and how shambolic our tax collection system is, I have this morning recieved a letter from HM Revenue advising me that I owe them (allegedly) £110 dating back to a tax return from 2005, apart from not having a clue whether or not this demand is correct it raises a couple of questions ...
1. They are now obviously scraping right down into the bottom corners of the barrel to try and drag in every last penny that is showing on their ledger as "owed", they've not chased this alleged amount from me before so presumably in the past it was deemed to be either unproven or just not of a large enough amount to bother with.
2. What sort of tax collection system did we have before that would leave amounts outstanding without reproach for seven years and no-one bothered to chase them - can you imagine trying to run a private business with debts going back seven years ?
Its gone in a drawer, I'll wait and see if they send a follow-up letter, its not unknown for them to send stuff like this out on the hope that a percentage will just cough up without question.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "Just as a side issue and if anyone was in any doubt as to how desperate the current government are, and how shambolic our tax collection system is, I have this morning recieved a letter from HM Revenue advising me that I owe them (allegedly) £110 dating back to a tax return from 2005, apart from not having a clue whether or not this demand is correct it raises a couple of questions ...
1. They are now obviously scraping right down into the bottom corners of the barrel to try and drag in every last penny that is showing on their ledger as "owed", they've not chased this alleged amount from me before so presumably in the past it was deemed to be either unproven or just not of a large enough amount to bother with.
2. What sort of tax collection system did we have before that would leave amounts outstanding without reproach for seven years and no-one bothered to chase them - can you imagine trying to run a private business with debts going back seven years ?
Its gone in a drawer, I'll wait and see if they send a follow-up letter, its not unknown for them to send stuff like this out on the hope that a percentage will just cough up without question.'"
exactly the same stuff happened with the previous government.
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