talking rubbish as usual

should have been a '-' and not a '.'

Instead of starting a new thread ...

rlMore from those dastardly unions, campaigning on things that help to raise productivity – who do they think they are?rl

I couldn't see anything of substance in that article (other than a headline). Have you read her article? What does it conclude?

One snippet, staff turnover had fallen and productivity increased.'"

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Mintball, who did KPMG introduce it for? The Secretaries get alot more than the living wage and I suspect the postroom staff would too. The professional staff are way, way above it (even new recruits). Ditto Goldman Sachs!! In other words, those that have signed up are generally those who were paying it anyway. The exception being the public sector - and you know where they got their money from (and they are now paying with their jobs). All in all, a bit of a non-story.'"

Oh for goodness sake, Coddy: you expect Dally to actually read things - never mind show a basic comprehension of what he might have read?

Mintball, who did KPMG introduce it for? The Secretaries get alot more than the living wage and I suspect the postroom staff would too. The professional staff are way, way above it (even new recruits). Ditto Goldman Sachs!! In other words, those that have signed up are generally those who were paying it anyway. The exception being the public sector - and you know where they got their money from (and they are now paying with their jobs). All in all, a bit of a non-story.'"

Do those you mention do all their own cleaning, cooking etc?

If YOU had bothered to read the article, you may have come across this little snippetAlec Stevenson, 48, East London

Works 37.5 hours a week as a kitchen porter for KPMG, earning £8.35 an hour. He has been in catering for more than 15 years and remembers working 17-hour days to make ends meet.

"When I started working, I was paid £5.50 an hour and used to work from 7am until midnight. Having more than £2 extra an hour has motivated me and allowed me to rent a bigger room in a safer area."[/i'"

Where do you get "about 5" from?

Sarcasm. But, the reality is that numbers of such staff are very small in relation to overall numbers on the payroll.

The reality – and the point – is that a relatively small increase in pay to the lowest-paid employees makes a positive benefit to the business as well as to the employee/s.

I appreciate that may be the case in some instances, although I doubt whether the well-being of a few kitchen porters will have any discernible impact on the overall results of a major accountancy and consultancy business.

IMO the main reason KMPG, Goldman Sachs and certain banks will have signed up - is that the cost to them will be negligible and its cheap publicity and positive PR.

And possibly mitigating the chance of a disgruntled KP pis[is[/iing in the brown windsor