Can only go off personal experience and trust you'lll belive what I'm saying but of my two nieces, one grandniece and daughter in law, who work in the N.H.S. only one, the youngest, employed in a hospital given over entirely to care for covid 19 victims, received full P.P.E. kit, just last Thursday.

I'm no Tory, never have and never will be but I think most people deserve a fair shake in what they do. My conclusion so far is that this lot are bodgeing the job and they'd better get their finger out P.D.Q

Have you got news blackout where you live ??

You looked daft with your earlier comments and your looking more and more out of touch with every post.
There are many, many shortages of PPE, Birmingham Council with just 2 days supply of aprons, care homes galore without the relevant PPE, nurses being told that they have to limit themselves to less than safe quantities etc, etc, etc, etc.

My previous comment, in response to you saying there was no shortage of ventilators was again laughable.
If we are so flush with this equipment, why on earth do we have Ford, McLaren and Airbus, changing their manufacture to produce them.

I know that you love everything Tory and you dont care if anyone dies but, FFS take your head out of the sand.

UK deaths although almost at their peak are still rising pretty quickly and the Government aren't counting all of them yet.

Compare the UK to Germany and you can see just how effective we are as a nation, it's pitiful
Our health minister was telling us only 10 days ago that there wasn't a reliable enough test. Yet, Germany was and is testing and their stats make the UK's response look embarrassing.

Spain and Italy testing rates (20k per million) are about the same as Germany but their death rates are a lot higher. So it can't be purely down to testing.

Spain and Italy testing rates (20k per million) are about the same as Germany but their death rates are a lot higher. So it can't be purely down to testing.

Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government

Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government

The pillock will be telling us next that it's only union affiliated health workers kicking off and taking advantage of the pandemic to further their nasty ways.

I see the lefties are out in force - what I see is workers from private companies kicking off - that is an issue with the management of these companies who have systematically failed to adequately protect their employees and want to blame the government. Its not the government's responsibility to look after the H&S requirements of their personnel.

Quote: Sal Paradise "I see the lefties are out in force - what I see is workers from private companies kicking off - that is an issue with the management of these companies who have systematically failed to adequately protect their employees and want to blame the government. Its not the government's responsibility to look after the H&S requirements of their personnel.'" How is the NHS a private company https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576

Quote: Sal Paradise "I see the lefties are out in force - what I see is workers from private companies kicking off - that is an issue with the management of these companies who have systematically failed to adequately protect their employees and want to blame the government. Its not the government's responsibility to look after the H&S requirements of their personnel.'" How is the NHS a private company https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576

There was a clue in the name, it's easy to spot