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| Quote: DHM "....unless you have to drive to Cornwall over Easter on your annual rugby tour along with around 65 other families.'"
Hence the word 'personally' preceding my statement.
It'll be a right old pain in the arris and damaging for a lot of people but personally speaking, a week minimising petrol use won't hurt.
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| Quote: Chris28 "I'm sure the various shop stewards and union leaders are sat round a table now gleefully discussing bringing the country to a standstill.'"
You actually believe that, don't you?
Have you bothered reading any of what this threatened strike is about?
Do you want tankers charging around the country trying to make unmanageable deadlines? I've been a wagon driver, I know what the pressure can be like, and that was only carrying bits of plastic.
This is about H&S more than anything else, no matter how the government is trying to muddy the waters. Yes, there is an aspect of pension in there, but given what they're driving, they can have whatever pension they're due for me.
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| Quote: Scooter Nik "You actually believe that, don't you?
Have you bothered reading any of what this threatened strike is about?
Do you want tankers charging around the country trying to make unmanageable deadlines? I've been a wagon driver, I know what the pressure can be like, and that was only carrying bits of plastic.
This is about H&S more than anything else, no matter how the government is trying to muddy the waters. Yes, there is an aspect of pension in there, but given what they're driving, they can have whatever pension they're due for me.'"
Erm, actually I don't think he does.
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| Quote: Scooter Nik "You actually believe that, don't you?
Have you bothered reading any of what this threatened strike is about?
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I wish you'd read more of his posts on this thread mate
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| Seem to remember the Tory supporting Country Side Alliance and thousands of lorry drivers up in arms when Labour was in power when fuel was nearly half the price. Where are they?
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| Quote: Saddened! "If you read the statements from the companies involved you can see how much the average driver is on and exactly what the proposed changed to their conditions are. It isn't worth striking about and they've got to accept that the economic climate has changed.'"
Why should anyone take a reduction in terms and conditions, the current situation is caused by things far beyond our control and the Tory answer as always is to batter the masses and look after the few on the premise that it costs very little to assist the already fabulously wealthy. Anyone on a million quid salary has just had a £42,000 pay rise (without even getting a salary increase) and the likes of Wayne Rooney (depending on how close media speculation is about his pay) will be getting £12,500 per WEEK extra (based on 250k per week), that is of course assuming (naively maybe) that these people are paying anywhere near 50% in the first place.
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| Does anyone think this encouraging of panic buying in the lead up to the first quarter results on growth or recession might mean we get growth rather than recession?
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| Quote: Matt01 "Does anyone think this encouraging of panic buying in the lead up to the first quarter results on growth or recession might mean we get growth rather than recession?'"
I think the numbers will be insignificant compared to a full quarters GDP
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| Quote: cod'ead "The vast majority are on neither final salary pension schemes or £50k+ wages. Even then I would hazard a guess that those few who may be on £50k+, their subsistence allowance (night out money) is also included in that figure.
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It would seem you're right
Speaking to my Bro-in-law who i found out drives tankers for TDG delivering fuel to Tesco, he managed £47k one year with plenty of OT so it's hard to imagine drivers clearing 50k+.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "It would seem you're right
Speaking to my Bro-in-law who i found out drives tankers for TDG delivering fuel to Tesco, he managed £47k one year with plenty of OT so it's hard to imagine drivers clearing 50k+.'"
The drivers on the big money will be on nights, so given my pet theory that the only people who should work nights are prostitutes, burglars and the police, they're worth the £50k
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| Quote: Scooter Nik "You actually believe that, don't you?
Have you bothered reading any of what this threatened strike is about?
Do you want tankers charging around the country trying to make unmanageable deadlines? I've been a wagon driver, I know what the pressure can be like, and that was only carrying bits of plastic.
This is about H&S more than anything else, no matter how the government is trying to muddy the waters. Yes, there is an aspect of pension in there, but given what they're driving, they can have whatever pension they're due for me.'"
Whoosh
Was being sarky about the post I replied to (sarcasm doesn't come across on here). I'm sure the union leaders are taking everything into account, but looking at their members interests above all.
Fwiw I agree with the rest of your post
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| This whole situation is nothing but a joke. I can't understand the mentality of the people who are panic buying when as I understand it, any strike action would be after 7 days notice.
A BP garage near me is now charging 1.49 a litre, He has always charged considerably more than the 2 petrol stations within half a mile of him anyway (which earlier today where charging 1.35/1.37) yet people are so stupid that they let themselves get ripped off by him, and today he will be rubbing his hands together. But who can blame him if people are still stupid enough to go there... they deserve to be fleeced.
There's also just been a fight at my local asda after people queued for an hour waiting for a tanker to turn up, only for people to ignore the £20 per customer limit which has ended up with people brawling and police having to turn up, what is wrong with these people??
If people had just stuck to their usual buying patterns until any strike action had been announced everyone would be able to get what they need. Now we are left with this mess. Can't wait to wake up in the morning and see how many cars in my street have had their fuel lines cut......
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| Quote: rover49 "I think the numbers will be insignificant compared to a full quarters GDP'"
If all the car drivers top up, all the pie eaters top up and all the senders of letters top up who knows.
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| Quote: Cronus "I have to make a lengthy journey tomorrow for work and I'm running just above empty right now. I refuse to join the morons currently embarrassing themselves by queueing for hours so I'll probably go out at about 10pm tonight and fill up.'"
Well, just got back from a trip to Tesco for tomorrow's journey, oh and for some First Defence (feeling a bit sniffly tha knows), and also ended up with some nice reduced ham & prawns. Plus the petrol goes on my Clubcard. But I digress.
As I went onto the little retail park there must have been 7-8 cars couldn't get into the petrol station, with 12 filling up and around 8 waiting on the forecourt. I thought, sod it I'll go to a different one nearby. Luckily when I came out of the store the queue had gone down and there were 2 free pumps so in I went. Look around after paying and the queue was out of the forecourt again.
Really, people? Fecking really?
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