is he not invited to your next fancy dress party

Why would anyone want to tap their phones

I think its hilarious the way the way the print media are howling in indignation about whether Grant and Coogan's allegations are 100% accurate. Talk about giving it out but not being able to take it.

Its undoubtedly the case that some celebs ask for what they get. And Hugh Grant is never going to attract much sympathy. But it does seems to me that the tabloids treatment of celebs ultimately created the climate where they felt they could get away with their appalling treatment of the Dowlers and Chris Jeffries. If the good guys are to be protected from the worst excesses of the media, those protections are going to have to be extended to everyone, including the celebs. And it should be possible to introduce reforms without curtailing the ability of the press to undertake genuine investigative journalism.

alternatively, he rl"could be forgiven for his entire career"rl

Aye, the Hugh Grant comments were fantastic. Most of his films are trite but I was in admiration at his attempt to scandalise the [iDaily Mail[/i who have probably peddled more lies than Hitler over the past 100 years or so. Hopefully some of Grant's words will stick although I'm not hoping for that much given their reader's inability to think.

Good article rlhere from the Guardian's Peter Bradshaw on Grant's contribution to the debaterl.

How true as I almost have lol.

I thought you shared similar interests in your spare time!?

Good point, well made.
To paraphrase from Fawlty Towers, you started it.



I'm not defending the tactics or methods of the gutter press, but what I will defend is their readership from the insinuation that somehow Milly Dowler's phone being hacked and her parents being given false hope is as much their fault as it is that of Rebekah Brooks, James Murdoch, Glen Mulcare or any of those others at NI and NoTW who chose to turn a blind eye to what was going on.

Oh, I do know that.



I would never, ever excuse the people you mention – and quite a few more. But quite serious question: do you think that we, as consumers, have no ethical responsibility to consider what it is that we buy?

Fantastic film and I do like [iFour Weddings[/i too.

Even though not sworn statements, the witness statements of Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant rlhererl make for interesting reading, as I'm sure the others do.

Coogan claims the press have gained details of his cash machine withdrawals and Grant that the press have obtained details of late night emergency hospital visits (including his condition).

The more this goes on, the deeper and more disgusting the rabbit hole gets.

Exactly.
Miller, Mosely, Rowling, Coogar, etc,etc have done nothing other than being successful.
They haven't courted the press like Katie Pric....Jorda...Katie Pr...Jord...Katie Price has so how anyone can then think they are allowed to be a target because they are good at what they do it baffling.

Both Mosely and Coogan have made the same point.
That being that they took the press on because they were able to and because others are not so lucky, Sounds a very sound and ethical stance to me.