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Quote: cod'ead "It's not just the schools, they've infiltrated rlThe National Trustrl now.

That's the last penny the Trust will see from me'"


That's put me off taking my family to St Michaels Mount on our summer holiday.

I've joined the Facebook group protesting against this.

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rlReport in The Indyrl

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Quote: Neil "rlReport in The Indyrl'"


Sounds like country suppers or tory donors all over again

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Was about to join the National Trust in time for the school holidays. Will find something else to do now.

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Quote: cod'ead "It's not just the schools, they've infiltrated rlThe National Trustrl now.

That's the last penny the Trust will see from me'"


Quote: cod'ead "That's put me off taking my family to St Michaels Mount on our summer holiday.

I've joined the Facebook group protesting against this.'"


As I understand it, the information which is being conveyed at the centre states that some Young Earth Creationists believe that the Causeway was formed in this fashion. That statement is factually correct, many YECs do believe that. The centre is not saying that such a view is correct or is scientifically sound.

Like much of what the NSS bleats on about, it's a big hoo-haa over nothing.

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Quote: kirkstaller "As I understand it, the information which is being conveyed at the centre states that some Young Earth Creationists believe that the Causeway was formed in this fashion. That statement is factually correct, many YECs do believe that. The centre is not saying that such a view is correct or is scientifically sound.

Like much of what the NSS bleats on about, it's a big hoo-haa over nothing.'"


So why not give equal credence to those believing that Finn the Giant created the causeway? Or to any other bat[is[/ihit loony sect for that matter

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Quote: cod'ead "So why not give equal credence to those believing that Finn the Giant created the causeway? Or to any other bat[is[/ihit loony sect for that matter'"


There are two main groups making claims about the Causeway's formation - the scientists and YECs. The YEC are much, much smaller in number but it is still an opinion which holds some sway in NI.

I've never heard of anyone mention Finn the Giant before.

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Quote: kirkstaller "There are two main groups making claims about the Causeway's formation - the scientists and YECs. The YEC are much, much smaller in number but it is still an opinion which holds some sway in NI.

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Scientists aren't 'making claims' about anything, they're stating facts based on empirical evidence.

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Quote: Rock God X "Scientists aren't 'making claims' about anything, they're stating facts based on empirical evidence.'"


But if they don't believe in God, due to evidence, they must have a agenda! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: kirkstaller "
I've never heard of anyone mention Finn the Giant before.'"


The clue is in the name

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Quote: kirkstaller "There are two main groups making claims about the Causeway's formation - the scientists and YECs. The YEC are much, much smaller in number but it is still an opinion which holds some sway in NI.

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Hi, o man who ignores all questions.

There are not two main groups. There is science, which is the only one of any relevance to the issue, and tells us the facts of the formation of the site. It is not an "opinion".

A few YCs are not in any sense a "main group", but a collection of misguided people who base bat loony views on literally no evidence at all, and are happy to ignore the incontrovertible evidence of, say, carbon dating, or the fossil record. It is only they who "make claims", which is all they can do, as they have zero evidence to support their entirely faith-based opinion.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Hi, o man who ignores all questions.'"


Says the man who went cowering last time. You can still find my challenge in the thread that got closed. Feel free to PM me your response.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "There are not two main groups. There is science, which is the only one of any relevance to the issue, and tells us the facts of the formation of the site. It is not an "opinion". '"


Of course it is an opinion. Scientists believe it or not have their own biases. Why? Well because they interpret data through a naturalistic framework from which God is completely removed. Ohter people, such as the creationists cited in the article, come to the table with their own baggage - their belief in God. They look at things through this lens and it helps shape their opinions on all kinds of things. This is the reason why you often get two groups of people looking at the same data and formulating conflicting views.

Facts are facts. They do not change. Scientific 'facts' on the other hand do change, and with some regularity I might add. How many times has something been declared a fact only for the scientific consensus to shift and declare it incorrect? Whilst you can claim that that it is admirable that science is willing to change and self-correct, you cannot label scientific theories as fact. In science, today's fact is tomorrow's blunder.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "A few YCs are not in any sense a "main group", but a collection of misguided people who base bat loony views on literally no evidence at all, and are happy to ignore the incontrovertible evidence of, say, carbon dating, or the fossil record. '"


Over 40% of the US population believes that God created the Heavens and the Earth. YECs are by no means a fringe group.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Over 40% of the US population believes that God created the Heavens and the Earth. YECs are by no means a fringe group.'"


over 60% of the US population don't have a passport and couldn't identify Iraq on a map, maybe you should move over there and spread your hate filled poison.

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20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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