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| Quote 100% Wire="100% Wire"They're economic migrants'"
No I am sorry but these three words do not help us locate your brain. I suppose it just doesn’t want to be found but who can blame it because would you want to be associated with you.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"No I am sorry but these three words do not help us locate your brain. I suppose it just doesn’t want to be found but who can blame it because would you want to be associated with you.'"
Sorry but he's correct. Anyone arriving in a boat from France, having paid thousands to a criminal gang, is an economic migrant and is NOT an asylum seeker in any way shape or form.
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| Sadly not only are you wrong the evidence says you are wrong they are not all economic migrants
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| Quote wotsupcas="wotsupcas"Sorry but he's correct. Anyone arriving in a boat from France, having paid thousands to a criminal gang, is an economic migrant and is NOT an asylum seeker in any way shape or form.'"
However people arrive in the UK, if the then try to claim asylum, they are asylum seekers.
Whether anyone should be able to travel through multiple countries, before claiming asylum, is a different question.
You have to "smile" about the choice of Rwanda, when the government over there have said that there is a shortage of
young males because they have had so many leave the country in recent years ??
The elephant in the room being that it's not a great place to live.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"Sadly not only are you wrong the evidence says you are wrong they are not all economic migrants'"
Dehumanising others is Right Wing 101. Generating fear and finding a way to blame the poor for all that's wrong with the world, rather than their policies, is how they cling to power.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"However people arrive in the UK, if the then try to claim asylum, they are asylum seekers.
Whether anyone should be able to travel through multiple countries, before claiming asylum, is a different question.
You have to "smile" about the choice of Rwanda, when the government over there have said that there is a shortage of
young males because they have had so many leave the country in recent years ??
The elephant in the room being that it's not a great place to live.'"
No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Dehumanising others is Right Wing 101. Generating fear and finding a way to blame the poor for all that's wrong with the world, rather than their policies, is how they cling to power.'"
They are not that poor that they can't afford to pay criminal gangs thousands of pounds.
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| Quote wotsupcas="wotsupcas"No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.'"
Indeed.
However, there's a fair bit of desperation there, to live in the camps around Calais and then risk your life to get to the UK.
It does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France or Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.
After all, once someone has made it to an EU destination, they could pick any other country within that bloc and many 1000's do.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Indeed.
However, there's a fair bit of desperation there, to live in the camps around Calais and then risk your life to get to the UK.
[uIt does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France [/uor Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.
After all, once someone has made it to an EU destination, they could pick any other country within that bloc and many 1000's do.'"
It's quite simple really, can't speak for other Countries but France makes it far more difficult to obtain asylum than the UK does, the process is more complicated and takes a lot longer, that's why they choose the UK. HTH.
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| Quote wotsupcas="wotsupcas"No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.'"
Of course until we left the EU we were part of a system which allowed us to return people arriving in the UK to France or other EU countries. As part of taking back control we no longer have that option.
So we'd need the UK to withdraw from the UN Refugee Convention which explicitly states there is no 'first country' rule.
How far are people willing to go to make the UK a pariah country? It's not as if, in context, the UK has very many asylum seekers in the first place despite what the Mail and Express tell their readers.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Of course until we left the EU we were part of a system which allowed us to return people arriving in the UK to France or other EU countries. As part of taking back control we no longer have that option.
So we'd need the UK to withdraw from the UN Refugee Convention which explicitly states there is no 'first country' rule.
How far are people willing to go to make the UK a pariah country? It's not as if, in context, the UK has very many asylum seekers in the first place despite what the Mail and Express tell their readers.'"
How dare you destroy a Rant with Facts
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"How dare you destroy a Rant with Facts'"
I see your erectile dysfunction is still a problem then.
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