Brexit is a Tory project. How about your party takes some responsibility for the chaos it has caused rather than blaming everyone else all the time.

Sorry Sal but, whatever you may think, it is the fault of the Tory leadership and THEIR version of Brexit that has been at fault.
We've had this conversation so many times already but the only way to have "got Brexit done" would have been to gain cross party support immediately following the result of the referendum.
However, what e saw was Cameron stepping down and May most certainly trying to do things her own way, not even bothering to take account of anyone else's views and in those circumstances, why on earth should the opposition MP actually try and help ?
There should have been common ground sought and agreed upon and than taken forward on a "free vote".
Whatever happened to Canada + or a Norway + deal ?? and just what consideration was N. Ireland ever given.

The whole "we won" and "you lost" ethos, in a vote where of those who bothered to vote, the result was 48.1 vs 51.9%, as close to 50/50 as you were ever likely to get and yet, those who voted remain or didn't vote were utterly dismissed.

A clever leader would have carried the country with them post the result but, not here, and many peoples views have become ever further entrenched..

Bright politicians may have tried to find a unique type of customs union to solve the issue but, alas, this was never considered, despite the fact that this could have been "sold" to the majority of voters and although there may still have been a minority of unhappy people, this would have offered compromise to allow the UK to move forward and protected "the Union".

The ERG would have been unhappy and maybe the left of the Labour party but, the vast majority would have been ok.

Water under the bridge now and all of our futures look less prosperous by the day, which I just dont believe is what too many people wanted or why they voted "leave".

I never said he wasn't intelligent, well read and clever and i'm certainly not envious of a bloke who stabbed his predecessor in the back then dismantled his own working majority after lying to the queen and trying to 'RAM RAID" brexit through by "bending" the law.

I agree with your point - the problem was even on day 1 a big chunk of MPs across the spectrum were saying the vote needed overturning. There was no way to gain cross party support for an exit when 70% of all MPs wanted to remain. It is like Labour now - how can they have any credible discussions with the EU when all they want is to remain?

Labour's view was so close to remain as being the in with no influence - that simply would wash with the electorate. May was a terrible negotiator and the fine detail was done by civil servants who again didn't want to leave - the deal had no chance. May had no majority it was a disaster waiting to happen and it did.

Brexit only happened because a majority of those who voted in the referendum voted to leave. If the vote had been the other way round we would not be having all this.

The UK should have had a vote when the Maastricht treaty was first proposed - this was a watershed where the EU moved from a trading to a controlling organisation. Major couldn't because he knew he couldn't get it through - same goes for Blair when he wanted to get closer - polls showed a 27-28% in favour so Blair bottled it too.

So, somebody please remind me once again, the advantages of brexit are:

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PARANOIA RELIEVER!

You need to take a long term view - what will the EU be in 10 years time - how has it evolved in the last 10 years? Is you view of what the future holds where you want to be - if it is great, if it isn't what do you do?

Decisions of this magnitude need to made for the long-term.

It's given us so many great names for future generations of art school bands:

Arlene Phillips and the DUP
The European Research Group
The Letwin Amendment
The Cooper-Letwin Motion
The Benn Act
Article 50
The Withdrawal Agreement
Meaningful Vote
Consent Mechanism
No Deal
Operation Yellowhammer
Transition Period
Five Tests
Common Travel Area
Great Repeal Bill
Hard Border
Canada Model
Norway-style Compromise
Single Market

Expect floppy haircuts, vintage sportswear, and a whole load of synthesisers.

Another day, another Tory lie


Despite being in office for the last 10 years, apparently ist's Labours fault that the "targets" (something officially scrapped by the Tories) for NHS waiting times are at their worst level since they took office, despite generally getting worse year on year since they were elected in 2010.

Too busy concentration on what Labour "is going to spend" and now, their representative has "done a Javid" and failed to show for another political TV debate.

They were a disgrace under May but, have actually gone backwards under their blue eyed "saviour" Joke leader and becoming a joke party.
Seems like Boris is joining the Tory "no show" brigade after bottling his Bakery visit as well.

Just as politics gets interesting the Tories seem to have developed a soft yellow underbelly.

The first sign of anything not resembling a cushy camera opportunity and they're gone, all of them.
I thought they were supposed to have some steel and backbone

And the scary thing is they are still going to win. At the same time as we laugh at the Americans for electing TRump we go and elect BoJo.