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The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: JerryChicken "Thats the really inexplicable thing - right wing party appears on the scene, further right than the Tories and attracts core vote from dirt poor traditional working class Labour supporters because of their Nationalistic jingo, borderline racism and absolute xenophobic policies, and will now quietly fade from the scene for another five years.
I call conspiracy theory...'"
In five years time we'll be looking back on UKIP as we now do on the BNP. UKIP's high-water mark was the last Euro elections |
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| Quote: General Zod. "Typically predictable comment from a typical economically illiterate tory.
When I say a "poorer society" I mean in the context of it being an inevitably - not a desire, but because you have a picture of Thatcher, you won't have an understanding of how wealth disparity happens and understand that Thatcher's legacy is a country on the road to default.
It is fact that the biggest gain of wealth for asset holders happened from the late '80s up to the financial crash - a large proportion of these asset holders where obviously baby boomers gained their wealth through property prices and pensions with large holdings in UK Government bonds.
So this group of people with their "I've worked for what I've got attitude" lack the understanding that they haven't actually "worked for what they've got" they've simply fell into the "rentier class" as a result of loose monetary policy and wealth transfer schemes such as "Help to Buy" which means hard work young people feed asset prices so baby boomers can use their pensions to go on their two holidays abroad a year.
A collapse of the bond market will simply be the laws of mathematics taking the course of "reverting to the mean" so all these pensions will get wiped out and the country will have to start producing again which will create jobs for young people.
Make no mistake about it; there will be no reflation of the bubble economy next time round.
As so happens when I debate with Tories, they act as if they're smug and knowledgable with their stock phrases such as "we have a strong economy" and as soon as I start schooling them they disappear - I expect you'll be no different.'"
You have to actually know what you are talking about before you can start schooling anyone - something you quite clearly don't. |
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| Quote: cod'ead "In five years time we'll be looking back on UKIP as we now do on the BNP. UKIP's high-water mark was the last Euro elections'"
Agree with that - their vote is a reflection on the abysmal quality of the two major parties.
I would have liked to have seen Len McCluskey interviewed after his engineered Labour leadership performance. It would have been almost as funny as when Jim Ratcliffe put him back in his box. |
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When I predicted riots by summer 2017 I meant by "real" people not those posh kids who are rioting today.
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The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Ajw71 "I am very excited about the Human Rights Act being repealed! No more pandering to terrorists who cannot be deported because of tenuous links to the country.
So many other policies to be excited about - finally a say on the EU!'"
So you are "excited" about repealing these rights then?
Or is it to be some kind of a simpleton's pick-n-mix? |
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| Quote: cod'ead "So you are "excited" about repealing these rights then?
Or is it to be some kind of a simpleton's pick-n-mix?'"
Our government has already overridden Art. 8! |
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| Quote: JerryChicken "Thats the really inexplicable thing - right wing party appears on the scene, further right than the Tories and attracts core vote from dirt poor traditional working class Labour supporters because of their Nationalistic jingo, borderline racism and absolute xenophobic policies, and will now quietly fade from the scene for another five years.
I call conspiracy theory...'"
Now we all know that the vote in Thanet was rigged against Nige.
A combined operation by MI5 and the CIA conspired to rig the vote by stealing the ballot boxes and then burn them in a Paris tunnel. Joe Biden knows exactly what happened but is desperate to cover it up. And we all know it's a conspiracy anyway. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt paper. |
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| Quote: Him "Now we all know that the vote in Thanet was rigged against Nige.
A combined operation by MI5 and the CIA conspired to rig the vote by stealing the ballot boxes and then burn them in a Paris tunnel. Joe Biden knows exactly what happened but is desperate to cover it up. And we all know it's a conspiracy anyway. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt paper.'"
If only there was a thread I could find some evidence of this...perhaps someone has read a book uncovering evidence of this dreadful conspiracy and might be kind enough to post a link whereupon I might find said publication... |
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It's not take long for the first protests to begin.
Kicked off in London this evening.
BBC were strangely quiet in reporting the protest until it went viral all over twitter at which point they had to report it due to accusations of censorship
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| Quote: Dally "When I predicted riots by summer 2017 I meant by "real" people not those posh kids who are rioting today.'"
And not the other middle-class s parading around in Anonymous masks.
It's got to be raw, vibrant and from the streets Toxtethtian and Brixtonian like.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "You have to actually know what you are talking about before you can start schooling anyone - something you quite clearly don't.'"
Break my post down then if you disagree. |
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A quick comparison between FPTP and PRNumber & share of votes
Conservatives - 11.3m - 36.9%
Labour - 9.3m - 30.4%
UKIP - 3.9m - 12.6%
Liberal Democrats - 2.4m - 7.9%
SNP - 1.5m - 4.7%
Green - 1.2m - 3.8%
DUP - 184,260 - 0.6%
Plaid Cymru - 181,694 - 0.6%
Sinn Fein - 176,232 - 0.6%
UUP - 114,935 - 0.4%
SDLP - 98,809 - 0.3%
Alliance - 61,556 - 0.2%
TUSC - 36,327 - 0.1%
NHA - 20,210 - 0.1%
TUV - 16,538 - 0.1%
Number of MP's under FPTP
Conservatives - 331
Labour - 232
SNP - 56
Liberal Democrats - 8
DUP - 8
Sinn Fein - 4
Plaid Cymru - 3
SDLP - 3
UUP - 2
UKIP - 1
Green - 1
Independent - 1
MP's under PR
Conservatives - 242
Labour - 199
UKIP - 82
Liberal Democrats - 51
SNP - 31
Greens - 24
Others - 21
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YES!!! Bloody brilliant result. The cherry on the rather large cake was seeing Balls get booted out.
The bleating of Jones, Toynbee et al is music to my ears.
Hopefully this'll see the Labour party and it's band of hypocritical acolytes banished to the margins for a good while.
At least those on welfare will be spared Rachel Reeves and her plan to hit them harder than the Tories, what sort of heartless, socially bereft would vote for a party that would do that?
Haven't laughed as much since Quisling Benn popped his clogs.
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The Labour party pulling itself apart with half of them wanting to lurch further to the left and the other half wanting to move back towards the centre. Whatever happens half of them aren't going to be happy.
It also looks like there will be open war as to the ongoing role of the trade unions in the future of the party.
It's going to be a long way back into office for the Labour party.
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The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Ajw71 "The Labour party pulling itself apart with half of them wanting to lurch further to the left and the other half wanting to move back towards the centre. Whatever happens half of them aren't going to be happy.
It also looks like there will be open war as to the ongoing role of the trade unions in the future of the party.
It's going to be a long way back into office for the Labour party.'"
The problems of the Labour party will be like a vicar's tea party compared to the interfighting that will now ensue in the parliamentary tory party. Once the dust has settled (should be after the summer break), then Camoron's real problems will start to surface.
He's going into the next five years with a smaller majority than Major enjoyed and an equal number of right-wing nutjobs. Farage won't be needed to "hold Cameron's feet to the fire" over Europe, he's got plenty on his own team to do that. He'll no longer have the LimpDems to blame for not being able to implement ALL of his manifesto commitments. Now the UK public will see him for the sneaky, conniving bully that he is.
Labour may be looking at a few years in the wilderness but the last thing they should do is even consider a return to Blairism. No matter what the likes of Mandelson may say, Blair was 20 years ago and thanks to him and his bessie GWB, the world is a completely different place. Labour have suffered far worse defeats, they'll get over this |
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