Typically predictable comment from a typical economically illiterate tory.

When I say a "poorer society" I mean in the context of it being an inevitably - not a desire, but because you have a picture of Thatcher, you won't have an understanding of how wealth disparity happens and understand that Thatcher's legacy is a country on the road to default.

It is fact that the biggest gain of wealth for asset holders happened from the late '80s up to the financial crash - a large proportion of these asset holders where obviously baby boomers gained their wealth through property prices and pensions with large holdings in UK Government bonds.

So this group of people with their "I've worked for what I've got attitude" lack the understanding that they haven't actually "worked for what they've got" they've simply fell into the "rentier class" as a result of loose monetary policy and wealth transfer schemes such as "Help to Buy" which means hard work young people feed asset prices so baby boomers can use their pensions to go on their two holidays abroad a year.

A collapse of the bond market will simply be the laws of mathematics taking the course of "reverting to the mean" so all these pensions will get wiped out and the country will have to start producing again which will create jobs for young people.

Make no mistake about it; there will be no reflation of the bubble economy next time round.

As so happens when I debate with Tories, they act as if they're smug and knowledgable with their stock phrases such as "we have a strong economy" and as soon as I start schooling them they disappear - I expect you'll be no different.

Yeah, I'm incredibly worried about a party which effectively exists within a vacuum, hyper-inflated by outside cash which can be withdrawn just as easily as it was injected in the first place, threadbare in terms of core infrastructure, policies etc. - not to mention meager ties to the establishment which, say, the Tories can boast going back centuries through blood ties. UKIP is just another in a long, long line of political implements meant to hoodwink the electorate into an expedient belief system. Like all implements it will be tossed aside the moment it has served its purpose.



Of course Labour saw it coming and if you seriously believe the grandees of the Labour Party went "all in" behind The School Prefect because they honestly believed he represented the best hope for the nation you're a fool. It was a job none of them wanted. So they gave it to the eager beaver kid who doesn't mind taking dirty jobs if it'll propel him three steps up the ladder of power.

This election has been a sick joke from the beginning. And the joke's on us.

Just like Labour you seriously have underestimated the public feeling on several core issues. 4 million people voted for Ukip amost twice as many as voted for the SNP and many of them switched from Labour.




The only fools here are those that cannot except that Labour was routed in Scotland and embarrassed in England because is was represented by oddballs and incompetents touting out of date rhetoric and unable to put up a serious case to deal with the important issues of the day.

Thats the really inexplicable thing - right wing party appears on the scene, further right than the Tories and attracts core vote from dirt poor traditional working class Labour supporters because of their Nationalistic jingo, borderline racism and absolute xenophobic policies, and will now quietly fade from the scene for another five years.

I call conspiracy theory...

In five years time we'll be looking back on UKIP as we now do on the BNP. UKIP's high-water mark was the last Euro elections

You have to actually know what you are talking about before you can start schooling anyone - something you quite clearly don't.

Agree with that - their vote is a reflection on the abysmal quality of the two major parties.

I would have liked to have seen Len McCluskey interviewed after his engineered Labour leadership performance. It would have been almost as funny as when Jim Ratcliffe put him back in his box.

When I predicted riots by summer 2017 I meant by "real" people not those posh kids who are rioting today.

So you are "excited" about repealing these rights then?



Or is it to be some kind of a simpleton's pick-n-mix?

Our government has already overridden Art. 8!

Now we all know that the vote in Thanet was rigged against Nige.

A combined operation by MI5 and the CIA conspired to rig the vote by stealing the ballot boxes and then burn them in a Paris tunnel. Joe Biden knows exactly what happened but is desperate to cover it up. And we all know it's a conspiracy anyway. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt paper.

If only there was a thread I could find some evidence of this...perhaps someone has read a book uncovering evidence of this dreadful conspiracy and might be kind enough to post a link whereupon I might find said publication...

It's not take long for the first protests to begin.

Kicked off in London this evening.

BBC were strangely quiet in reporting the protest until it went viral all over twitter at which point they had to report it due to accusations of censorship

And not the other middle-class s parading around in Anonymous masks.
It's got to be raw, vibrant and from the streets Toxtethtian and Brixtonian like.
We live in hope.

Break my post down then if you disagree.