All democratically elected leaders will have an element of decent folk voting for them. It doesn't spare them from ridicule & criticism, nor should it.

But 2.87 million more of them voted for Clinton; he won because of the bizarre electoral college system in the US.

No more bizarre than ours though is it. Already gone through this before. 2010 election the Snp got 50 odd seats for 3 million votes and the Ukip got zilch (or 1) for 4 million.

So if something similar happened in Russia, as what's happened to Jefferey Epstein in America, how would 'western governments' react?

The hypocrisy is staggering.

I know one thing. There will have been plenty of high profile figures breathing huge sighs of relief upon hearing the news of his suicide. His trial would have opened a right can of worms.

I dont for one minute believe he commited suicide

Do you reckon Prince Andrew's dad might have been involved?

But we’re not electing a prime minister/President. We’re electing a local representative. So whilst our system is poor (should be PR) it’s nowhere near as ridiculous as the US system.

The west happily laughs at African, South American or Asian governments where the president got less votes than his challenger yet somehow still won.

Now that the USA is pulling out of the Paris climate agreement and suggesting that he want's the USA to become "an energy superpower" should Trump be officially be regarded as a "climate change denier" and what can or should be done to try and get him back on board.

The roadkill he puts on his head looks ridiculous. As for his false teeth he wants to stick 3tubes of UHU on them so they don’t start slipping from his gums.

Donald Trump wants a no deal Brexit so he can get his grubby hands on the nhs and force through more privatisation of our healthcare.

He knows Jeremy Corbyn won’t let this happen whereas Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson will.

This was exposed on QT last night as Labour scaremongry - everybody knows the NHS is not going to be privatised - every major US pharmaceutical company already has a presence in the UK so what is going to change. The vast majority of drugs we use in this country are out of patent and we use generic options. Which bits of the NHS will get privatised?

The idiot shadow health secretary suggested it would cost the NHS an additional £500m a week - that was until it was pointed out that the reduction in the spina bifida drug negotiated between a US co and the government.

Are you really looking to Question Time for confirmation???

You also forgot to acknowledge one of the guests, Kate Andrews, whose 'cute and cuddly' title is the director of the Institute of Economic Affairs. Sounds like she's doing us a favour, right? Kate Andrews is also a prominent lobbyist for private healthcare companies.

On Newsnight in July, she said... “It’s time to overhaul the NHS and replace it with a system fit for 2018”

Now, what kind of system do you think she has in mind?

It isn’t much to do with pharmaceutical companies, directly at least. Drugs account for about 12% of NHS spending. The NHS already spends close to 10% of its budget on care purchased from the private sector, and how much that grows and shapes healthcare policy and delivery is probably the bigger issue.

But, on drugs Americans pay much higher prices than other countries. This is partly because they are rich and can afford it, and drug companies implement differential pricing to make their products accessible in poorer countries as well. However, they also pay higher prices than even wealthy European countries who have strong government-backed cost-containment measures in place. The Americans might view such approaches as being a bit socialist for their tastes, but their own system is fragmented and has some poorly aligned incentives, and from a selfish UK perspective, we [ireally[/i want avoid adopting something similar. It is maybe unfair that the US carries so much of the burden of funding the Global pharmaceutical industry. But i’d prefer they changed it through reforming their own crappy, inefficient system, rather than foisting it on us.

Really ?/
It's a bloody good job that you're not a fish, as you seem to have jumped on the hook pretty damn quick.

There is no doubt at all that a section of the Tory Party would very happily hive off parts of the NHS and it was more telling a few months ago, when May (I think) said that the NHS wouldn't be part of any trade deal and Trump replied that it would be all or nothing.
This seems a little more believable than a Tory on QT pretending that the NHS is "not for sale".
Of course we already take drugs from the US but, there is plenty of scope for a "takeover" AND the prospect of moving towards health insurance, which I think is where the US would be most interested.