Or the law

yup

but, other than that, got it covered

I'm not really up on politics, but I've heard talk of a Federal State, not just the home nations but regions of England also (as they're all effectively the same size or bigger than the rest of the home nations anyway).

Again, not really being a follower of what happens politically, what would this mean? If (as an example) the 9 regions of England plus the 3 remaining home nations were to comprise of the first 12 states of the UK, would they all have their own governments and laws, similar to USA? Would that be a good thing?

No, stupid idea

It probably is, like I say I don't really get politics. But maybe you could be a bit more co structure here...

The sheer size of the US demands the way they operate, similarily Australia, we just dont need it

I don't see what size has to do with it? There are some tiny States in USA. Not to mention there are Federal States in Europe, such as Germany, Switzerland and Belgium.

Do you really believe the politicians in Westminster will do what's best for us Northerners?

I believe all politicians do what is best for themselves, and that would include ' Federal ' ones

How would you split England? ,and what responsibility would you devole?

Of the 22 Cabinet Ministers. 2 are Scottish. Danny Alexander and the minister for Scotland. There's no rule or law that says you have to pick a Scot. A majority government could easily function without a Scot in cabinet. The problem for you is a majority Labour government couldn't, which is what yet another of your "WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH....Tories" posts is really about.

I wonder if they've labelled Danny Alexander "Token" yet.

Like I say, I'd need to know more about what the other models operate like before even coming up with an answer to the latter.
The former is an interesting one. I used the current regions of England as an example, but I probably wouldn't use them exactly. I think there'd need to be some form of identity and culture behind each state, but accept that would be fairly difficult to achieve!

I'll give it a stab though!...
So the Federal States of the UK:
Scotland
Wales
Northern Ireland
London State (current London region)
Cumbria & Northumbria (North East region plus Cumbria)
Yorkshire (current Yorkshire & Humber region minus the North Lincolnshire counties)
Lancashire (North West region minus Cumbria)
West Midlands (current region)
East Midlands (current region plus North Lincolnshire counties)
Anglia (East of England region)
South East England (current region)
West Country (South West minus Cornwall)
Cornwall (current county)

There's probably something better than the names I've suggested, but I've tried to stick closely with the current regions with a few cultural shifts I'm aware of such as Cornwall, who have an independence movement, and Cumbria being aligned with the lesser-populated North East than Lancashire (who would have a far better local connection to the name than "North West"icon_wink.gif.

And responsibility devolved?

Now that is all sorted can we have another vote to see if the rest of the UK want rid of them ?

Give them a second chance .. Everyone deserves a second chance .

Search out the England fans from the other week on youtube

F*** off Scotland, we're voting yes

Why?

Similar to how it is in the US I suppose. States have the right to set taxes, certain laws, govern schools, etc.

Federal government to sort out national issues such as immigration, broadcasting, postal service, drivers licences, defence, etc.

Like I say, I'm not big on politics so there's probably a load of guff in there. But it would be good to see local laws based on local opinions and not that of people based in London. The death penalty in certain states of the UK would be interesting...!