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| Quote: Hessle Roader "Don't judge someone by what they don't say. I was well into my 40's when she came to power and am fully aware of what went on. To say the problems in this country are down to the actions of one person is the most myopic view I have ever come across. Just ask yourself why such actions were taken. I didn't want to live in a country which was getting as close to anarchy as it was at that time. You may fool the young people on here but there are those of us who know better. Nobody is trying to muzzle those people who feel it necessary to rejoice in the death of someone but nor should they be applauded. Shall we celebrate in a similar manner when new Labour Tony finally pops his clogs. No, why would we, he's been Mr. Moderate and squeaky clean hasn't he, or perhaps not.'"
Ken Loach has responded to your post and sums it up for me.
Quote: Hessle Roader "Margaret Thatcher was the most divisive and destructive Prime Minister of modern times.
Mass Unemployment, factory closures, communities destroyed – this is her legacy. She was a fighter and her enemy was the British working class. Her victories were aided by the politically corrupt leaders of the Labour Party and of many Trades Unions. It is because of policies begun by her that we are in this mess today.
Other prime ministers have followed her path, notably Tony Blair. She was the organ grinder, he was the monkey.
Remember she called Mandela a terrorist and took tea with the torturer and murderer Pinochet.
How should we honour her? Let’s privatise her funeral. Put it out to competitive tender and accept the cheapest bid. It’s what she would have wanted.
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| Quote: David Titan "Regarding post-war Britain, the Baby-Boomers rebuilt the economy on the fragile foundations of State spending, welfarism and American loans. It was the post-war Butskellite consensus that destroyed the traditional independence and innovative spirit of the British people, and it replaced with the principles of dependency, idleness and envy. The Baby-Boomers threw away the British empire and made us economically dependent of the US, and political satrap of Germany, so that we could establish a healthcare system that is the second worst in the developed world.
The establishment of the welfare state and nationalised economy in 1945, for noble reasons, which formed the basis of your great economic recovery sowed the seeds for the belief in cradle-to-grave State benefits, massive public spending and massive debt. We saw the consequences of the nationalisation of industry in the 70s, we are seeing the consequences of welfarism today. Great legacy the baby-boomers built and left - potentially the end of Western civilisation and certainly the end of the West has the leading power in the world. Congratulations on destroying hundreds of years of history in just a few decades.'"
Didn't governments encourage welarism by encouraging and judging people incapacitated so they could pretend unemployment was lower than it was? Don't they now have high employers NI when they know it causes poverty through part-time working because they can say how many private sector jobs have been created and pretend unemployment is low?
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| My major issue with Thatcher's policies around labour issues was the dogged refusal to understand that the US model she so admired simply wouldn't work in the UK.
The 'on yer bike' attitude to labour mobility was based on the hugely flawed assumption that workers would move to wherever work was available. In the US that works to a degree unmatched anywhere in the world, with lots of large population centres, relatively cheap housing across the country, and a population that understands that if they don't work they will become very poor very quickly.
In the UK, mobility was always limited by vast cost differentials between north ond south, a benefits system that in some cases actively disincentivised moving to look for work, and the simple fact that such large-scale geographical movement was always going to prove impossible in a country as small as Britain (completely different issues from the industrial revolution before anybody raises that one).
The model was also flawed because - again following the US - it assumed that new industry would spring up to replace the manufacturing that was killed in the process of modernising the economy. Services were never going to replace manufacturing in the numbers required in the short-term, and never would in the single-industry towns and cities.
What we got instead of genuinely awful manufacturers dying and being replaced with a combination of services and better, non-unionised (and therefore competitive) manufacturing was significant areas of the country living in an economic wasteland, whilst others (notably the already relatively better-off south east) boomed on the back of weakened unions. In addition we had good manufacturers being killed along with the bad.
OTOH the unions had to be taken on and brought to some semblance of reality. No amount of left-wing red-tinted spectacles could deny that the country was in an absolute mess when Thatcher took over, and that the unions were helping to destroy industries very effectively without any political intervention being required. Thatcher recognised that, and was helped in no small part by the idiocy of 'leaders' like Scargill, whose own actions (refusing to hold an up-to-date ballot for strike action for example) played right into the Tories hands.
Thatcher's model was flawed, and she seemingly cared very little for the impact of her policies on people and communities, helping to create a far more selfish society as a whole. But OTOH it could be argued that without a certain dogmatic 'toughness' which brought the bad with the good, she'd never have been able to drag the country forward the way she did.
Thatcher will always be hugely divisive. Like all such leaders, I expect she could never quite understand why her own party kicked her out, or why she was detested by so many people across the country.
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| Think its an absolute disgrace that Mods not only allow this thread to continue, but actually take glee in someones death. But then again its not as if any of you actually have the balls or ability to do anything as huge as lead a country is it?
Lets hope you all get more sympathy in your demise!!!
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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| Quote: bullinenemyland "
Lets hope you all get more sympathy in your demise!!!'"
Couldn't give a toss pal. I'll be dead
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| Oh what a beautiful morning...
Oh what a beautiful day...........
Another positive about the bonkers old bitch dying is that Susanna Reid looks fit as fook in black.
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| The good Lady died at The Ritz hotel. What a lovely way to go in such splendid surroundings. Very fitting. Looking forward to seeing reviews of her life and brilliant career on various TV channels over the coming weeks. It'll be like watching blockbuster movies. Be sure to tune in.
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| Quote: WIZEB "Oh what a beautiful morning...
Oh what a beautiful day...........
Another positive about the bonkers old bitch dying is that Susanna Reid looks fit as fook in black.'"
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| Luke 23-34
Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do.
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| Amen to that.
Alas, no resurrection. Only insurrection.
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2051.jpg The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| And in something of fitting irony, the BBC originally reported
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| Quote: littlerich "Amen to that.
Alas, no resurrection. Only insurrection.'"
Yeah, it's at times like this that I'm sorry there's no such thing as hell.
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Others/combustable.gif Red Amber and Black Fantasy Rugby League Champion 2012.
By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013
Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
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| And to think that Rugby League fans always claim that they are the best supporters in sport? A family sport?
Some complete and utter scumbags on here.
I really do despair.
Brainwashed idiots.
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6329_1327085433.jpg ...Diagnosing SBD (Sporting Bipolar Disorder) since 2003...
Negs bringing down the tone of your forum? Keyboard Bell-endery tiresome? Embarrassed by some of your own fans?
Then you need...
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I must be STOPPED!!
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| Good riddance.
Disgustingly evil woman. A shame there's no Hell as it's what she deserves.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Didn't Thatcher leave No.10 about 20 years ago? So therefore the lack of social housing has nothing to do with her. However, it does have everything to do with another party that was in power for 13 of those 20 years.'"
It is getting tiresome having to explain again that destruction is so much easier and cheaper than rebuilding.
Are you saying that Gordon Brown should have spent more to rebuild what the tories had destroyed?
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