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33809_1522680904.png 'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: Dally "Lucid.'"
Justice Secretary David Gauke used very similar language today.
I don’t know whether to be proud or ashamed.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Cronus "So the most interesting thing Corbyn has said since last Christmas is to call the PM a 'stupid woman' in Parliament.
I missed your outrage at Hammond. Hague. Cameron...
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| Quote: Sheldon "I missed your outrage at Hammond. Hague. Cameron...'"
I'm not sure how you read outrage in my post, I think it's hilarious.
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Again, we should always be happy to fight for a better future and not roll over too easily.'"
People should be happy to fight for a better future...but only if what they think is a better future matches your opinion.
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| Quote: Cronus "So the most interesting thing Corbyn has said since last Christmas is to call the PM a 'stupid woman' in Parliament.
Only if you get caught. The desperate outrage on the Tory benches was comical.
That said, while it wouldn’t be too far along the misogyny spectrum, it would be on it. There’s gender neutral alternative noun available in ‘idiot’, too. But there are linguistic gaps. If I thought recklessness was a characteristic of a woman, the sentence has to restructured because I can’t think of a good noun. ‘Reckless person’ doesn’t really work as an exclamation. Whereas a racist element typically requires an extra word, gender has been baked into our language. I read an article about a gender neutral person the other day and the writer had used ‘they’ instead of ‘he’ or ‘she’, which sort of worked until it followed a sentence about them and their family, and it wasn’t clear if the next sentence referred to the individual or the group.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "The desperate outrage on the Tory benches was comical.'"
The last time I saw someone behave like James Cleverly did was at middle school circa 1989. "I saw it sir, I saw him say it".
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| Quote: ThePrinter "People should be happy to fight for a better future...but only if what they think is a better future matches your opinion.
My vision of the future seems relatively easy to predics, Brxit still has a HUGE element of crossed fingers and ideological hope.
Remember, the trade deal still hasn't been started upon yet and given our "quality" negotiating that we've whitnessed so far, do you think our future looks brighter and do you expect to be better or worse off as a result of leave.
Our government cant agree a way forward among the cabinet, nevwr mind havinANY vision for a brighter future.
Turkeys voting for Christmas is what I thought at the time and as the festive period gathers momentum, there has been NOTHING to change my mind.
Even the main issue of immigration has been a smaoke screen for increasing immigration from outside the EU, ironic or what
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| Quote: Mild Rover "The desperate outrage on the Tory benches was comical.'"
Do you honestly think the reaction would have been any different if it had been a Tory minister? Get real.
In fact, it's very interesting watching left-wingers playing the whole thing down...all the while knowing full well if (for example) Philip Hammond had been seen saying the same thing the anti-Tory frenzy would be on another scale and he'd have been forced to resign by now.
You know, and I know it.
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33809_1522680904.png 'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: Cronus "Do you honestly think the reaction would have been any different if it had been a Tory minister? Get real.
In fact, it's very interesting watching left-wingers playing the whole thing down...all the while knowing full well if (for example) Philip Hammond had been seen saying the same thing the anti-Tory frenzy would be on another scale and he'd have been forced to resign by now.
You know, and I know it.'"
No, my bias is in the opposite direction.
If anything, I think the Tories are more likely to get a pass because nobody expects better of them.
While anti-semitism in the Labour Party feels shocking to me, charges of islamophobia against in the Conservative party... well, what else would we expect?
Also, there’s no definitive evidence and if you don’t think a Tory could brazen this out, then I don’t think you have been watching properly.
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Bless the ickle snowflake right wingers getting outraged. What Corbyn did was wrong. What he should have done was walk across the floor & snotted the stupid cow. An outraged party & woman who only a few days ago gave the whip back to 2 MPs who had sent thousands of explicit sexual messages. A woman whose actions are destroying the country, its health, education & social services, killing hundreds of homeless, putting record numbers on the streets, yet thinks it is acceptable to behave like the privileged upper class ponce in a high school drama lesson, cheered on by her parasitic fags, in the supposed home of intellectual debate.
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| Quote: Cronus "Do you honestly think the reaction would have been any different if it had been a Tory minister? Get real.
In fact, it's very interesting watching left-wingers playing the whole thing down...all the while knowing full well if (for example) Philip Hammond had been seen saying the same thing the anti-Tory frenzy would be on another scale and he'd have been forced to resign by now.
You know, and I know it.'"
Own goal alert!
Phillip Hammond referred to his fellow Tory MP, and prominent swivel-eyed unicorn salesperson Andrea Jenkyns, as a "stupid woman" in July; she brushed it off as part of the "cut and thrust of politics."
Not to mention:
David Cameron to Angela Eagle: "Calm down dear"
Nicholas Soames to a female Labour MP: "woof woof"
William Hague to female Labour MP: "stupid stupid woman"
Boris Johnson to Emily Thornberry: "The noble and learned The Baroness whatever it is"
And lets not forget that the prominent feminist and enabler of women in parliament Theresa May, restored the whip to 2 alleged sex pests in her own party, just to get their support in the confidence vote - to a deafening silence from the MSM.
But you're right - sexism is very definitely one of the growing list of isms that Corbyn is labelled with every time the Tories are in hot water; it's almost as if they're trying to distract us...
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| Quote: tigertot "Bless the ickle snowflake right wingers getting outraged. What Corbyn did was wrong. What he should have done was walk across the floor & snotted the stupid cow. An outraged party & woman who only a few days ago gave the whip back to 2 MPs who had sent thousands of explicit sexual messages. A woman whose actions are destroying the country, its health, education & social services, killing hundreds of homeless, putting record numbers on the streets, yet thinks it is acceptable to behave like the privileged upper class ponce in a high school drama lesson, cheered on by her parasitic fags, in the supposed home of intellectual debate.'"
And she speaks so highly of you.
No, what he should do is stop gambling on a reasonable Brexit deal in the hope of creating so much chaos and damage he gets a shot at No.10.
Because unless you're a complete blithering idiot, it should be clear that's what's going on. Labour is throwing us all off a cliff to get a General Election.
Yes, there is some division with the Tory party - but this policy of 'Tories out at any cost' from several parties is taking us all down the path of No Deal. And you know what, the public can see it. Labour think they'll win votes if Brexit implodes? They could be surprised.
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| Quote: bren2k "Own goal alert!
Phillip Hammond referred to his fellow Tory MP, and prominent swivel-eyed unicorn salesperson Andrea Jenkyns, as a "stupid woman" in July; she brushed it off as part of the "cut and thrust of politics."
Not to mention
So those were all unacceptable, but what Corbyn said isn't? Make your mind up.
Today's increasingly aggressive climate around any hint of misogyny is far more critical and unforgiving than it ever has been, by some degree - yet lefty lovies reel off their excuses when Emperor Jezza gets caught out.
And yeah, I'm sure you'd have been so chilled about it if it had been a Tory.
In all honesty, I really don't care WHAT he said. I detest this culture of trial by (social) media and forced resignations for relatively minor indiscretions - as I've said on here many times. What I'm chuckling at is the massive hypocrisy from Labour and the anti-Tory brigade.
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| Quote: Cronus "So those were all unacceptable, but what Corbyn said isn't? Make your mind up.'"
Calm down dear - you're transposing your faux outrage onto me.
You said:
"In fact, it's very interesting watching left-wingers playing the whole thing down...all the while knowing full well if (for example) Philip Hammond had been seen saying the same thing the anti-Tory frenzy would be on another scale and he'd have been forced to resign by now."
Which clearly isn't the case, because the last time I checked, spreadsheet Phil is still sitting pretty in no 11, despite saying *exactly* the words that you wish Corbyn had said, but with an extra "stupid" thrown in for good measure.
This whole thing is a dead cat - and the media are complicit; meanwhile, people are literally dying on the streets. It's pathetic - I'm off to fly my drone.
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| Quote: Cronus "And she speaks so highly of you.
It is an interesting conundrum from a labour perspective.
Whatever your position on Brexit, it is clear that for either of the parties realistically capable of forming a government it is political poison, and they have to mitigate the damage it will do to them.
It may fall to Labour to save the country from the worst potential outcomes of a Tory-initiated Brexit, but they have to be very wary of getting Clegged. They have sat on the fence and May’s delays are rapidly narrowing everybody’s options. They may end up having to abstain in protest (which probably looks like an abdication of responsibility) or give their MPs a free vote (which looks like indecision), to get us all off the no-deal hook. However, asking them to properly dip their hands in the blood at this late stage isn’t realistic.
Maybe it should have been negotiated by a cross-party group. That’d have gone well, i’m sure!
As it is, the choices are finally clear and none of them are good. Tick tock.
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