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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "You asked a question which i answered and told you where the information can be found. It is now up to you who raised the question to prove I am wrong and where I can find the evidence backing you up. If you can’t I would suggest you move onto another topic. I am sure you will have another designed to generate the type of responses you for some reason crave.
It’s a pity that Monty Python never actually created a department for those seeking verbal confrontation in their lives. I bet you would have made one interesting subject with all your built in insecurities.'"

If I'd asked the question but put last year instead of now then yeah the government figures would have been relevant but in a typical lefty disingenuous way you can't seem to give a straight answer a046.gif c020.gif

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'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

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I’ve gone back far enough to find what I think is the question.

I believe the answer is ‘no’.

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Quote: Mild Rover "I’ve gone back far enough to find what I think is the question.

I believe the answer is ‘no’.'"

Hallelujah ,finally someone can give straight answer a014.gif
Of course you are wrong though icon_lol.gif
They are just economic migrants, a fact that is recognised by any media outlet ,sans fronteire and most politicians, I mean the figures and stats that SP used included
Albanians ffs

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So what we get from this, which we all knew already, is that Jonny was just looking for an excuse to reply saying someone was wrong.

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Quote: JONNYGIANT "Hallelujah ,finally someone can give straight answer
So these fountains of wisdom would they be the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph and GB News. I am sure you will be able to furnish us with all the others. With regards politicians I don’t think Lee Anderson counts nor does Farage who was never actually voted in to the U.K. government. I believe his record is 7 attempts and 7 failures.
I am also not sure what a Race Horse can bring to your argument but I guess you need to clutch at straws.
To exclude Albanians just makes your argument even weaker because they are recognised to be mainly economic migrants and you want to not include them in the figures.

To make it understandable to JG - NO

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Quote: JONNYGIANT "Hallelujah ,finally someone can give straight answer
Perhaps I misunderstood then.

I took the question to be ‘do we all agree that…?’

I don’t believe your framing, assertions or definitions are universally accepted.

The reasons for that are quite complex as migration is a complex topic, but on another level also quite simple. There has been a cultural bifurcation. As the gap widens we shout ever louder but it gets increasingly difficult to hear from or to be heard by those on the other side.

On a personal level, I tend to see the arguments in terms of systems and economics. The emotive moralising about what is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ doesn’t really resonate with me - it is just so predictable, easy and obviously for profit. Find an audience and give them what they want. Politics as entertainment.

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Every time I go to the supermarket I can’t get in for rich Chinese Hong kongers, rich Indians, rich Afghans, and rich ukraines.

Must be half a million of them

And all buying houses which means local people can’t .

Who let all them in? icon_biggrin.gif

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Don't forget trying to book a decent hotel that hasn't been turned into a migrant abode

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Quote: RoyBoy29 "Don't forget trying to book a decent hotel that hasn't been turned into a migrant abode'"


The Ritz as well apparently, I wonder how many they are housing in the Kings Suite.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "So these fountains of wisdom would they be the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph and GB News. I am sure you will be able to furnish us with all the others. With regards politicians I don’t think Lee Anderson counts nor does Farage who was never actually voted in to the U.K. government. I believe his record is 7 attempts and 7 failures.
I am also not sure what a Race Horse can bring to your argument but I guess you need to clutch at straws.
To exclude Albanians just makes your argument even weaker because they are recognised to be mainly economic migrants and you want to not include them in the figures.

To make it understandable to JG - NO'"

Yeah yeah the old must be a daily mail reading white bigot, god you're so predictable, maybe that's why you're just a figure of contempt on the wakie sleepy.gif board

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Quote: MjM "So what we get from this, which we all knew already, is that Jonny was just looking for an excuse to reply saying someone was wrong.'"

Trying to have a debate but not much chance with you and sp ,at least Mild Rover gave an answer, you couldn't do that ,probably because you know the answer but it doest suit your left wing ideology eusa_snooty.gif

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I note a little bit of deflection in your post but no actual details of who are the many outlets and politicians backing your stance.

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RNLI , from what i am seeing on various social media platforms will soon be suffering from financial donations. The major gripe being is they are the English channel's taxi service for all the migrant crossings.

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What do you want them to do?
Just let people drown?

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Right so everybody who's seen the pictures of the small boats landing knows
that they are single young males,and if you were honest you would agree that they're economic migrants.
98% of them arrive with no ID documents, so what's the reason for this ,is it so they can lie about where they are from infact they can lie about anything.
With people coming in legally we can vet them ,the boat people we can't.
I'm not against immigration but it's got to be the right people for this country who are going to contribute to society, work and pay their taxes.
This government and previous one's to be fair are playing a dangerous game what's not going to end well.

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