Jingle bells, jingle bells
The Butcher's got three names
Oh what fun he stalks all day shifting ego's to play his game.

From the butcher to JLM
the sicko switches again, and again
God knows what the 3rd name is
that it could be dirty den. YO !

Among the first responses one usually hears whenever the question of conspiracy arises ismeant[/i when he said he had nearly a thousand active agents working in TV, print journalism and academia at the HSCA in 1978? Do they think the CIA just pays them for sitting there and doing nothing? Bear in mind this number has probably quadrupled today with all the spending that has been ploughed into covert activities.

I'm actually cringing for you. What a genuinely odd, weird man you really are.

It was those 3 killings, JFK, RFK and MLK (along with the JFK film) that really started me looking at such things from a different perspective.
It wasn't that I really researched the 3 killings in depth it's just that with all of them, but especially John & Robert Kennedy, things just didn't seem right and didn't seem to add up in the way we were told they should.
And then when you look at the 3 and add in the lies about Vietnam it starts to make sense in a bigger perspective.
But really it was JFK and I can remember vividly the first time I saw the zapruder film. I saw the film before I knew that much about it all and so just instantly assumed that the book depository was in front of Kennedy. When I found out it was behind I just couldn't understand how anyone, or any investigation, could think the final shot didn't come from the front.
Then of course the more I looked into it the more I found that didn't add up too.

Like Bren, I don't believe that everything is a conspiracy or hoax, I look at the evidence people put out and decide for myself, but I'm much more likely to believe them now than I was before JFK came out and it inspired me to look into it. And much much more suspicious of the media and its motives.

I think we could all, regardless of our views on conspiracies, agree on how biased and awful the media is.
Regardless of anyone's politics on here, the biased nature and sometimes outright made up nature of some recent stories in the media should concern everyone. The 2 that come to mind recently are the ones about Jeremy Corbyn at the cenotaph and The Sun making up the 1-in-5 Muslims, and their reporter lying about not having his ID checked when getting into Europe.

If they can do that to further their own agendas then they can do anything.

I've just watched the Garrison tapes on the unmediated history thread, what es me off is that there's so many theories regarding the killer shot. I believe the PTB invent alternative theories up and try to throw any keen researcher off the scent of what really happened, and that leads the researcher becoming puzzled and confused which can lead to a doubtful mind-set which the PTB set out to intend in the first place which is a type of mind control. At the end of the day the CIA's involvement in this case is so overwhelming it's stinks to high heaven. The CIA have a free role in society they're free to assassinate at free-will which is another subject with regard's of whom they've taken out, the list is endless.

This could be a great thread with lots of discussion from both sides but Flat Stanley just keeps on ruining it

Regards

King James

It'd be even better if you could contribute more than a sentence to the topic.

Regards

Flat Stanley

Some weeks ago before his previous persona got itself banned, I asked our dissembling friend a simple question: Why - if as he insists, the Earth is flat - does the Moon look 'upside down' from Australia .

It must be the hardest question in the world though for our Stanley, as one thing he will not do is directly answer it. There is no point in moving on to harder questions with someone who can't or won't respond to a simple straightforward question. Bearing in mind he raised the "flat earth" lunacy, not me.

You can learn a lot from his assertion that asking this very simple and un-loaded question is "goading". Although when his brain can't compute a reply, I suppose maybe it feels like it to poor Stan.

You have to laugh, though, at his vainglorious threat to spam the board. How arrogantly crass! Knock yourself out mate - spam as much as you want! Do you nuttily believe that the forum admins would be incapable of dealing with such asinine behaviour? I bet you do!

Take your puerile threatening post and stick it up yer jacksy.

And - answer the question.

Back on topic

rlNormally this would be classed as a CONSPIRACYrl

Alleged jihadi tourist caught with a stash of gun training videos after returning from Syria 'was a paid MI5 helper'

Police discovered terror-related material at the south London home of Muslim convert Mustafa Abdullah, 34, after seizing his mobile phone when he landed in the UK last year, it was heard.

Giving evidence in his defence, Abdullah said he first became involved with the British security service between January and August 2008.

His lawyer Andrew Hill asked: 'What was the purpose of the contact?'

The father-of-four replied: 'Basically, they were saying, "can you spy for us?". I said Muslims don't spy, however, I will assist you. I don't hang around with people like that but if I do, I will let you know.'

Abdullah told jurors he was paid £10,000, adding: 'I didn't need the money but they wanted to give it, so I took it.'

Three months before he went to Syria, MI5 agent 'Graham' called him up and asked for a meeting, but he rebuffed him, the defendant said.

£10.000 of your money

I've just come across this article, here a former CIA, NSA agent Steve D Kelley speaks out regarding the St Bernardino False flag event. Steve's declares "expect a long line of more false flagged events . “The people that were on the scene and saw this happen also reported that three tall white men wearing black shirts, khaki pants and tanned combat boots were actually the shooters. The description is almost exactly what the gentlemen from Craft International, the mercenary organization that was involved in so many other false flags, actually look like. This seems to be their standard uniform,”
rlFULL ARTICLE AND VIDEO INTERVIEW CLICKrl

I only replied to the previous post as is my right of reply, given the abuse you had aimed directly at me. I reply only for the same reason.

My post under reply contained - Vitriol
Not even a bit. I am simply pointing out one fact, that you were asked one simple question, which you won't answer.As for "geocentric debate", there IS no debate. The evidence is so overwhelming and the flatearthism so mind-numbingly unscientific and frankly mad, that it doesn't qualify for a "debate" any more than fairies at the bottom of the garden do.

You don't have any intention to debate, because you can't debate. You can't answer the simplest question.


You see, you can't just answer a straight question. You feel compelled to lace whatever drivel you write with antagonistic, sneering, nasty bullcrap. This says a lot about you.

Second, your bizarre "example" doesn't work. Wherever I sit in my room, the "semicircle" will always be pointing the same way. I will (obviously) se it from a different perspective, but its up-down orientation (obviously) doesn't change. At all. From anywhere in the room.

Anyway, the moon is a sphere, not a crescent. Make you room light a simple sphere. Paint a big red spot on the bottom. The spot will be at the bottom whether viewed from ANY part of the room.

In the case of the moon, it isn't a featureless sphere. It has well known topography. You can see, from anywhere on the planet, which part to you from where you are viewing looks "up". It isn't a question of illumination. What I see as the "top" of the moon would look to me as the "bottom" of the moon if I moved to Australia.


The thing is, you haven't. At all. Your example is very plain nonsense. Anyone can see through it in a second. Indeed, unless you are insane - which I doubt - you must very well know your "example" is nonsense. This is what my problem is with you. It strongly indicates that nothing you say is to be taken sremotely seriously. I mean, you cannot possibly actually believe that a room lamp will invert itself, or appear inverted, from different ends of a room. Can you?


Excuse me? You know i haven't a chance of answering questiuons you haven't asked? Are you now claiming to be psychic to add to the rest?

If that were true, you could always start your own thread and pose your stunning questions. If any were interesting, people might even choose to engage them.


...isn't fictitious at all. the nice thing is anyone can view it, clear sky permitting, from anywhere on the globe. That is your insurmountable problem.


One of us continually posts threats and abuse and one of us doesn't. Your problem is you actually can't stand calm, rational discussion.

Do catch the ISS on its numerous (predictable) passes this next few days. While you're at it, maybe you could plot its path on a map of your "flat earth" and explain how the feck it does that

Didn't he tell you that he lies down first?
He lies in one corner raises his head and looks at the light bulb.
It is hanging down, with Osram written on the bottom.

He then slides on his to the opposite corner without changing the direction of his feet until they hit the wall.
He now looks back. Hey presto, the bulb is hanging up with Osram written on the top.
Case proven.
He of course hasn't realised in effect he has turned upside down.
Oh silly him!
Shall I put a bank of three laughing emoticons?
It seems to be the trend.

I'know exactly what you've written, it'll be vitriolic CHILDISH nonsense. followed by a load of heliocentric bull even though i can't see it due to the beauty of the Foe button. Hmmm Bliss