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Incidentally you never elaborated on WQ an oversight I'm sure'"


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They're economic migrants

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Just remember, we all have more in common with an immigrant in a dinghy, than a millionaire trying to send them to Rwanda.

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I must admit this government is very good a wasting taxpayers money. We had the cost of finding out that a bridge from Scotland to Nth Ireland was uneconomical and now we have good old Pritti whose idea to turn boats back to France was challenged in the courts. The wisdom of the home office despite being informed it would not be legal was to defend the stance right up to the last minute and then withdraw their objections. The court awarded that all costs to be met by the government aka us.
I expect it will be the same with Rwanda which so far has cost £120 million for the rushed signing of the agreement only. I suppose it was worth it to her because she needs de Pfeffel to stay PM because she like quite a few others would return to the back benches with the cheque book and pen taken away.
It is quite a statement when some in the Conservative party cannot think of anyone who they believe could replace de Pfeffel

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Quote: RoyBoy29 "Just remember, we all have more in common with an immigrant in a dinghy, than a millionaire trying to send them to Rwanda.'"


The enemy of the working class doesn't arrive in a dinghy. They arrive in a superyacht.

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Quote: 100% Wire "They're economic migrants'"


No I am sorry but these three words do not help us locate your brain. I suppose it just doesn’t want to be found but who can blame it because would you want to be associated with you.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "No I am sorry but these three words do not help us locate your brain. I suppose it just doesn’t want to be found but who can blame it because would you want to be associated with you.'"

Sorry but he's correct. Anyone arriving in a boat from France, having paid thousands to a criminal gang, is an economic migrant and is NOT an asylum seeker in any way shape or form.

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Sadly not only are you wrong the evidence says you are wrong they are not all economic migrants

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Quote: wotsupcas "Sorry but he's correct. Anyone arriving in a boat from France, having paid thousands to a criminal gang, is an economic migrant and is NOT an asylum seeker in any way shape or form.'"


However people arrive in the UK, if the then try to claim asylum, they are asylum seekers.
Whether anyone should be able to travel through multiple countries, before claiming asylum, is a different question.

You have to "smile" about the choice of Rwanda, when the government over there have said that there is a shortage of
young males because they have had so many leave the country in recent years ??

The elephant in the room being that it's not a great place to live.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Sadly not only are you wrong the evidence says you are wrong they are not all economic migrants'"

Dehumanising others is Right Wing 101. Generating fear and finding a way to blame the poor for all that's wrong with the world, rather than their policies, is how they cling to power.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "However people arrive in the UK, if the then try to claim asylum, they are asylum seekers.
Whether anyone should be able to travel through multiple countries, before claiming asylum, is a different question.

You have to "smile" about the choice of Rwanda, when the government over there have said that there is a shortage of
young males because they have had so many leave the country in recent years ??

The elephant in the room being that it's not a great place to live.'"

No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Dehumanising others is Right Wing 101. Generating fear and finding a way to blame the poor for all that's wrong with the world, rather than their policies, is how they cling to power.'"

They are not that poor that they can't afford to pay criminal gangs thousands of pounds.

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Quote: wotsupcas "No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.'"


Indeed.
However, there's a fair bit of desperation there, to live in the camps around Calais and then risk your life to get to the UK.
It does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France or Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.
After all, once someone has made it to an EU destination, they could pick any other country within that bloc and many 1000's do.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Indeed.
However, there's a fair bit of desperation there, to live in the camps around Calais and then risk your life to get to the UK.
It does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France or Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.
After all, once someone has made it to an EU destination, they could pick any other country within that bloc and many 1000's do.'"

It's quite simple really, can't speak for other Countries but France makes it far more difficult to obtain asylum than the UK does, the process is more complicated and takes a lot longer, that's why they choose the UK. HTH.

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