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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Could be worse. Could be a Labour government who left a million Middle Eastern innocents to their deaths.
Oh sorry, that didn’t matter because they weren’t white skinned'"
Something of a distraction post you have put there.
No one was more critical of Blair and Iraq than me . Might have been 15 years I stopped voting Labour in that time.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Something of a distraction post you have put there.
No one was more critical of Blair and Iraq than me . Might have been 15 years I stopped voting Labour in that time.'"
Was he not marxist enough for you
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| Quote: JONNYGIANT "Was he not marxist enough for you'"
Not supporting invading other countries is not just the preserve of the left .
But unfortunately it seems that for most people on her including you , it seems you can only understand complex issues in simple terms.
Politics is not just left and right there are many grey areas.
I also opposed the Labour Party on PFI which was / is a disaster
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Not supporting invading other countries is not just the preserve of the left .
But unfortunately it seems that for most people on her including you , it seems you can only understand complex issues in simple terms.
Politics is not just left and right there are many grey areas.
I also opposed the Labour Party on PFI which was / is a disaster'"
Did you think of Blair as the son of Thatcher like my dad did,he hated him
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| Quote: JONNYGIANT "Did you think of Blair as the son of Thatcher like my dad did,he hated him
Not really I voted Blair in the first election. I was really hoping for some change and felt positive it could be delivered in terms of a more tolerant and fairer society .
Initially there were lots of good things investment in public services and loads of new schools and hospitals . When I understood how they were being paid for and the consequences of it I was appalled
Minimum wage, FOI and human rights act, civil partnerships for gay couples were great.
But when he became a god bother and went into Iraq all that changed. He became so imbued in his sense of righteousness that he lost the plot. Possibly influenced by alistair Campbell.
By this time I began to loathe him and everything he has said or done afterwards has confirmed to me he is c***
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| Thats Afghanistan done, lets move on to new news.
Those who have criticised Britains historical colonial past will be pleased that we have finally left Afghanistan and allowed Afghanis to decide there own future.
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| I don’t think you can just ignore those we have left behind and just move on even though Johnson will try.
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| Quote: wire-quin "Thats Afghanistan done, lets move on to new news.
Those who have criticised Britains historical colonial past will be pleased that we have finally left Afghanistan and allowed Afghanis to decide there own future.'"
Not really they now have to face up to their responsibilities . Something that those who oppose those invasions regularly point out but it never seems to come into judgement of those who make the decisions whether that be Cameron Blair or Johnson
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| The Afghans will have little say in their future given the malign influence being exerted there by so many other countries - twas ever thus.
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| Quote: Bullseye "The Afghans will have little say in their future given the malign influence being exerted there by so many other countries - twas ever thus.'"
Indeed
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Not really I voted Blair in the first election. I was really hoping for some change and felt positive it could be delivered in terms of a more tolerant and fairer society .
Initially there were lots of good things investment in public services and loads of new schools and hospitals . When I understood how they were being paid for and the consequences of it I was appalled
Minimum wage, FOI and human rights act, civil partnerships for gay couples were great.
But when he became a god bother and went into Iraq all that changed. He became so imbued in his sense of righteousness that he lost the plot. Possibly influenced by alistair Campbell.
By this time I began to loathe him and everything he has said or done afterwards has confirmed to me he is c***'"
Well well we agree unfortunately for you that's the nearest you will see to a socialist government in your lifetime
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| Quote: wire-quin "Thats Afghanistan done, lets move on to new news.
Those who have criticised Britains historical colonial past will be pleased that we have finally left Afghanistan and allowed Afghanis to decide there own future.'"
Bet the normal Afghans can't wait
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| Quote: wire-quin "Thats Afghanistan done, lets move on to new news.
Those who have criticised Britains historical colonial past will be pleased that we have finally left Afghanistan and allowed Afghanis to decide there own future.'"
Afghanistan certainly is done but, it will be the Russians, Chinese and others that decide it's future, not the Afghan people.
As for Britains colonial past, there will always be issues if we try and compare the actions of 150+ years ago with how we try to behave these days although, some people do seem to think that Britain still rules the world but, we are a little way down the pecking order.
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| Quote: JONNYGIANT "Bet the normal Afghans can't wait'"
Who are the normal Afghans?
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Afghanistan certainly is done but, it will be the Russians, Chinese and others that decide it's future, not the Afghan people.
As for Britains colonial past, there will always be issues if we try and compare the actions of 150+ years ago with how we try to behave these days although, some people do seem to think that Britain still rules the world but, we are a little way down the pecking order.'"
We are, and that's why it's a positive that we aren't in Afghanistan any longer.
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