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| Quote: "No, it says you are not prepared to have a conversation and have your opinions challenged. Why do you even bother coming on the site...'"
Because it's a vote that doesn't work,so i gave my opinion on what i think,end of.
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| Quote: "Because it's a vote that doesn't work,so i gave my opinion on what i think,end of.'"
With no reasoning, but hey, Leigh fans are not the most intelligent in the game.
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| Quote: "With no reasoning, but hey, Leigh fans are not the most intelligent in the game.'"
Is it mandatory to do so Garby?
BTW - You come across like a bit of a thicko yourself old bean,but No need for the insult is there Garby, just because you've lost a round. Give up laddie.
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| Quote: "Is it mandatory to do so Garby?
BTW - You come across like a bit of a thicko yourself old bean,but No need for the insult is there Garby, just because you've lost a round. Give up laddie.'"
laddie?
Sums you up.
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| Quote: "laddie?
Sums me up.'"
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
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| Quote: "This is a genuine question, with no agenda; why? What do you think leaving with no deal looks like, and what effects will it have on our economy?'"
And is no deal even an end result?
When you listen to some ardent brexiteers, they seem to forget the fact that even if we leave the EU on the 12th with no deal, the EU will continue to exist, and will still be a major trading bloc on our doorstep.
At some stage, we will need some sort of deal with the EU. Don't really understand why some people advocate leaving before we reach any agreement with them.
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| The strange thing about all of this is that if we treated the 2017 GE as a referendum, the Tories would be out, as they only got 42% of the vote.
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| Surely Brexit will be put on hold now.
The 2016 referndum produced a majority of 1.27m to Leave. That majority now does not exist. From January 19th 2019 there is now a Remain majority.
As we now know the benefits of Leaving the EU which we were told about during the referendum campaign are untrue. From the "Leave" meeting I attended the two MP's told us all about the Free Trade Deal which would simply continue as now due to the EU needing us more than we need them. Also we wouldn't pay a penny more to the EU from the day we Leave. You've heard all the rest.
Leave won the referndum due largely to the claims made which were untrue. The two MP's which told us all those lies are now actively demanding a "No Deal" exit.
No wonder trust in politicians has never been lower.
Either another referendum or simply revoke article 50.
There is now no Majority to Leave, they therefore have no mandate to Leave.
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| Quote: "The strange thing about all of this is that if we treated the 2017 GE as a referendum, the Tories would be out, as they only got 42% of the vote.'"
You could say that about most of the governments that we've had over the last 100+ years and if you take account of the poor turn out at some elections, the picture is bleaker still.
Even in the Brexit referendum, around 30% of those eligible to cast a vote either didn't want to or, couldn't be bothered, a bit like Corbyn during the referendum
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| Quote: "Even in the Brexit referendum, around 30% of those eligible to cast a vote either didn't want to or, couldn't be bothered, a bit like Corbyn during the referendum
You can keep saying this but it still doesn’t make it true.
Ever thought of being a politician?
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| Quote: "You can keep saying this but it still doesn’t make it true.
Ever thought of being a politician?'"
Which part are you questioning ?
Corbyn being invisible during the referendum campaign or, 30% of the voting public not actually voting ?
The actual turnout was 72.2% so, Im happy with saying 30% and Corbyn was ANNONYMOUS, instead choosing to leave the majority of the campaigning to Cameron and Osborne, neither of whom are directly involved in politics.
It was a huge mistake for "remain" to rely on those two clowns.
Having squeezed the poor harder than at any time since the war, is is any wonder that they couldnt attract enough votes to secure a remain vote
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| Quote: "Im happy with saying Corbyn was ANNONYMOUS, instead choosing to leave the majority of the campaigning to Cameron and Osborne, neither of whom are directly involved in politics.
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Corbyn’s remain campaign activities included:
10 EU rallies, with speeches and meetings in London, Bristol, Stroud, Newquay, Perranporth, Cardiff, Blackpool, Bournemouth, Liverpool, Runcorn, Manchester, Truro, Sheffield, Widnes, Doncaster, Rotherham, Hastings, Brighton, Dundee, Aberdeen and Birmingham.
These included a meeting with student nurses in Birmingham, a factory in Runcorn, a clean beaches event in Truro and campaigning with activists in Scotland.
Launched the Labour In bus and the Ad Van.
A debate on Sky News with Faisal Islam, also talked about the EU on the Agenda and the Last Leg. Appeared on the Andrew Marr show twice and on Peston on Sunday.
Written two op-eds, one in the Observer and another in The Mirror.
Reached more than 10 million people on social media.
Six statements to the House of Commons and 10 PMQs on the EU.
He has been consistent on this issue from day one of his leadership, issuing a statement in September that “Labour will be campaigning in the referendum for the UK to stay in the European Union”.
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| Quote: "Corbyn’s remain campaign activities included
Well, maybe it's the TV that chose to show dumb and dumber fronting the campaign, rather than getting Corbyn in front of the camera.
Personally, I've NEVER heard him openly say that he was in favour of leave or remain, other than talking about workers rights etc.
Even now, you would be hard pressed to know what his personal views are, other than wanting to lead the country.
His party want a second referendum but again, he shy's well away form saying this himself, other than saying that its an option.
It's a little like Labours six (impossible) tests, which even their own policy fails
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Quote: "Well, maybe it's the TV that chose to show dumb and dumber fronting the campaign, rather than getting Corbyn in front of the camera.
Personally, I've NEVER heard him openly say that he was in favour of leave or remain, other than talking about workers rights etc.
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Here is a video of him doing just that in 2016
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... highlights
Brexit is a mess entirely created by the conservatives, who even at this late stage, can’t even get their own cabinet to agree on what brexir should look like or how it’s going to be achieved.
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Personally, I've NEVER heard him openly say that he was in favour of leave or remain, other than talking about workers rights etc.
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Here is a video of him doing just that in 2016
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... highlights
Brexit is a mess entirely created by the conservatives, who even at this late stage, can’t even get their own cabinet to agree on what brexir should look like or how it’s going to be achieved.
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| Quote: "Well, maybe it's the TV that chose to show dumb and dumber fronting the campaign, rather than getting Corbyn in front of the camera.
Personally, I've NEVER heard him openly say that he was in favour of leave or remain, other than talking about workers rights etc.
Even now, you would be hard pressed to know what his personal views are, other than wanting to lead the country.
His party want a second referendum but again, he shy's well away form saying this himself, other than saying that its an option.
It's a little like Labours six (impossible) tests, which even their own policy fails
I would suggest then WC, that you need to broaden your outlook in terms of where you get your news from; you're parroting MSM lines that are simply not borne out by the facts.
It's risible to try to pin the referendum result on Labour and/or JC - this is a Tory mess, designed by Cameron to deal with the problem that UKIP was causing his party - which has spectacularly backfired; and which Mrs May has inherited, and made even worse, by once again putting her party before the country.
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