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Our Government can make decisions about what to do or not do on our side of the border but on the other side it's up to the EU country in question. Interesting stories have surfaced about what the French may or may not do. I'm sure it's all unfounded and is just project fear, the French have always had our best interests at heart.

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Quote: Bullseye "I posted this on the old thread but it deserves repetition.<snip>'"


Excellent and informed post - it certainly did deserve repetition.

My Dad grew up in Belfast - I discussed this with him the other day and he agreed - the presence of a hard border would be fuel to a flame that despite the GFA, has never really gone out.

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Quote: bren2k "Excellent and informed post - it certainly did deserve repetition.

My Dad grew up in Belfast - I discussed this with him the other day and he agreed - the presence of a hard border would be fuel to a flame that despite the GFA, has never really gone out.'"


So the Catholics are going to revolt over a border put in by the Catholics - really

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Quote: Sal Paradise "So the Catholics are going to revolt over a border put in by the Catholics - really'"


Yes I'm sure everyone will blame them icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Bullseye "Our Government can make decisions about what to do or not do on our side of the border but on the other side it's up to the EU country in question. Interesting stories have surfaced about what the French may or may not do. I'm sure it's all unfounded and is just project fear, the French have always had our best interests at heart.'"



Like when they used to throw our lamb into the harbour in their country? It seems like you have never read The Forbidden Game either. The French have NEVER had our intrests at heart.

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Quote: Cassandra "Like when they used to throw our lamb into the harbour in their country? It seems like you have never read The Forbidden Game either. The French have NEVER had our intrests at heart.'"


I agree mate, I was being sarcastic.

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Quote: Bullseye "Any kind of hard border will attract dissident republicans attention simply because they would see it as imposed by the UK government and therefore a fair target. As soon as that happens then the whole thing escalates. Dissident republicans want an escalation and this would provide the catalyst. Dissident republican terrorism is in the top three terrorist risks that the security services deal with along with Islamist groups and right wing groups. They haven’t gone away.'"


Nah, this is just more "project fear" a name give to any awkward question or situation or "snowflake" if they think they want to try and belittle you.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Nah, this is just more "project fear" a name give to any awkward question or situation or "snowflake" if they think they want to try and belittle you.'"

Not really, both sides are guilty of taunts. Eg the brexit brigade are old and will probably die before we are out of the EU. So therefore the votes don’t count.Still the whole scenario is keep me entertained. Saw somebody’s Twitter posting about last Saturday’s March. Quote… it was wonderful everybody was so well behaved especially when we were all in pret a manger. Bet waitrose takings we’re down for the day.

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Quote: Bullseye "Yes I'm sure everyone will blame them
Who wants a border it certainly isn't the UK icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Who wants a border it certainly isn't the UK
I believe it was you and the rest of the Brexitiers that wanted a border, you just didn't realise that was part of what you voted for, although to be fair, I know that you did your research icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif and now, poor Teresa is stuck between a rock and a hard place and can barely secure agreement among her cabinet on which way to try and move forward, never mind the UK or the EU.
I wonder if her husband whispers "strong and stable","strong and stable","strong and stable","strong and stable", to try and help her get to sleep at night.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Who wants a border it certainly isn't the UK
I must have imagined all those Brexiters going on about taking control of our borders.

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Quote: Bullseye "I must have imagined all those Brexiters going on about taking control of our borders.'"


I think gammon and irony are mutually exclusive.

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Quote: Bullseye "I must have imagined all those Brexiters going on about taking control of our borders.'"


I doubt many brexitiers are bothered about a border in Ireland - I suggest to you its the likes of Tusk who are more concerned.

The leavers want to control the level of immigration - not free movement of goods - or have I got that wrong?

Surely you use a visa system to control immigration - if we go on holiday in Europe we still have to go through passport control so the idea that we all move freely through Europe without any checks is a myth.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I doubt many brexitiers are bothered about a border in Ireland - I suggest to you its the likes of Tusk who are more concerned.

The leavers want to control the level of immigration - not free movement of goods - or have I got that wrong?

Surely you use a visa system to control immigration - if we go on holiday in Europe we still have to go through passport control so the idea that we all move freely through Europe with any checks is a myth.'"


Indeed - many Brexiters aren't bothered about a border in Ireland - which is precisely part of the problem; they should have been, and by extension should have found a satisfactory way to resolve it up front, rather than scrambling around now in pursuit of a unicorn solution that either doesn't exist, or is entirely unacceptable to all the other parties involved.

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Quote: bren2k "Indeed - many Brexiters aren't bothered about a border in Ireland - which is precisely part of the problem; they should have been, and by extension should have found a satisfactory way to resolve it up front, rather than scrambling around now in pursuit of a unicorn solution that either doesn't exist, or is entirely unacceptable to all the other parties involved.'"


The vast majority of stock moves across borders with no check - on the basis of appropriate paperwork. If every container were opened and checked nothing would ever move. As I pointed the best supply chains originate in South East Asia e.g. Apple and manage to make it into Europe without delay. The Irish border is a red herring put out as a last ditch attempt by remainers.

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