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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "AGAIN[/i.'"
Her biggest achievement is to turn a 20 point lead in the polls into a hung parliament in the GE, talk about setting the bar low.
Perhaps we have similar thoughts in her ability after all.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "I actually agree with you but, thankfully, we are unlikely to see them in charge.
However, the Prime Minister asked you to trust her to deliver a good Brexit deal and deliver a fair society.
I know this is unlikely to happen as, despite her "friends" on here, she will be gone in the near future and then you will all be saying just how poor she was.
Why are you in denial, when she would struggle to run a bath, successfully, never mind run the country.'"
I agree with you she is a disaster and for the good of everyone she needs to go quickly - I am under no illusions as to her failing but unlike you I am also under no illusions at to the failing of the last 3 Labour PMs.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I agree with you she is a disaster and for the good of everyone she needs to go quickly - I am under no illusions as to her failing but unlike you I am also under no illusions at to the failing of the last 3 Labour PMs.'"
Please tell me what I thought about the last 3 Labour PM's ?
Unless you've hacked my phone and PC, I think you may struggle to know.
While you're at it, chuck in this week's winning lottery numbers.
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73680_1515668157.jpg [size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Please tell me what I thought about the last 3 Labour PM's ?
Unless you've hacked my phone and PC, I think you may struggle to know.
While you're at it, chuck in this week's winning lottery numbers.'"
Sal responded to a post of mine by mentioning the last three Labour PM's, insinuating I thought the sun shone out of their s, and it appears he's done the same with you. Odd.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Please tell me what I thought about the last 3 Labour PM's ?
Unless you've hacked my phone and PC, I think you may struggle to know.
While you're at it, chuck in this week's winning lottery numbers.'"
Given you have omitted to mention any of their failing I have assumed - you cannot but do anything else - that you cannot find fault otherwise you would have mentioned it for balance and contextual reference - or am I overstating your powers of comparison?
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| Quote: DGM "Sal responded to a post of mine by mentioning the last three Labour PM's, insinuating I thought the sun shone out of their s, and it appears he's done the same with you. Odd.'"
Please see post above - myopia must be a Socialist thing
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Please see post above - myopia must be a Socialist thing
There you go, yet another assumption you've cast upon someone. Not doing very well today are you Sal?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Given you have omitted to mention any of their failing I have assumed - you cannot but do anything else - that you cannot find fault otherwise you would have mentioned it for balance and contextual reference - or am I overstating your powers of comparison?'"
You've heard the old adage not to assume as you can make an ass of yourself.
Callaghan was a nightmare
Blair, although he had some very good years, stayed at the helm too long and he will never be forgiven for having Bush's hand up his backside and Brown took a poisoned chalice.
Clearly, Blair never wanted Brown to succeed him and he was doomed to fail, which he spectacularly did.
I think that my powers of comparison are way ahead of the blinkered view's who can see no wrong with their own favoured party, similar to RL fans who can never see that a call against their side can ever be the correct call.
One of the few things that I agree with Corbyn on is that you need to listen to all views, even when they are different to your own but, apart from that, his plans are fundamentally flawed.
Mind you, with the spectre of Brexit almost upon us, little of our own politics matters as we will have so much crap to deal with over the next 3-5 years that domestic decisions will matter little.
When you listen to all sides, apart from the wild optimist's (who's number is getting fewer), we are in for some difficult years and that is without Tory austerity (if it still exists) or, Corbyn's spend, spend, spend.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You've heard the old adage not to assume as you can make an ass of yourself.
Callaghan was a nightmare
Blair, although he had some very good years, stayed at the helm too long and he will never be forgiven for having Bush's hand up his backside and Brown took a poisoned chalice.
Clearly, Blair never wanted Brown to succeed him and he was doomed to fail, which he spectacularly did.
I think that my powers of comparison are way ahead of the blinkered view's who can see no wrong with their own favoured party, similar to RL fans who can never see that a call against their side can ever be the correct call.
One of the few things that I agree with Corbyn on is that you need to listen to all views, even when they are different to your own but, apart from that, his plans are fundamentally flawed.
Mind you, with the spectre of Brexit almost upon us, little of our own politics matters as we will have so much crap to deal with over the next 3-5 years that domestic decisions will matter little.
When you listen to all sides, apart from the wild optimist's (who's number is getting fewer), we are in for some difficult years and that is without Tory austerity (if it still exists) or, Corbyn's spend, spend, spend.'"
The point I was trying to make is you can't say someone is the worst ever without qualifying it otherwise it has no context - compared to what?
I have said repeatedly she is a terrible leader and the sooner she goes the better.
The Tories are far from perfect but the do at least look after the wealth generators. Whether you agree with that or not is a mute point. In any society you will get winners and losers everyone is not equal and they never will be. If you want wealth generation it isn't going to happen by restricting the potential gains the wealth generators can make otherwise what is the incentive - altruism isn't an realistic incentive for very many to risk a lot and work really hard.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "The point I was trying to make is you can't say someone is the worst ever without qualifying it otherwise it has no context - compared to what?
I have said repeatedly she is a terrible leader and the sooner she goes the better.
The Tories are far from perfect but the do at least look after the wealth generators. Whether you agree with that or not is a mute point. In any society you will get winners and losers everyone is not equal and they never will be. If you want wealth generation it isn't going to happen by restricting the potential gains the wealth generators can make otherwise what is the incentive - altruism isn't an realistic incentive for very many to risk a lot and work really hard.'"
Most philanthropists/altruists have made/inherited fortunes BEFORE becoming generous, it's easy to give away $25m when you have $3bn
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| So for our resident diehard Tories - how did the queen's speech play for you? All of the big ticket items in the already flimsy manifesto were omitted or watered down - and she still doesn't have a deal with the DUP, which leaves her totally hamstrung. Latest reports are that the Barnett consequentials resulting from their demands for funding for NI would be eye-watering sums of money - so that deal is still far from done. Meanwhile, Philip Hammond is openly contradicting her on Brexit, and she has to start her tenure post a disastrous election, with an admission that the state failed the victims of a disaster, while thousands of people took to the streets of London to demand her resignation.
To top off the indignity, even her maj trolled Mrs May, by wearing a Euro-hat instead of her crown. Ouch.
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| Quote: bren2k "To top off the indignity, even her maj trolled Mrs May, by wearing a Euro-hat instead of her crown. Ouch.'"
To be fair, once a German, always a German
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| Quote: bren2k "So for our resident diehard Tories - how did the queen's speech play for you? All of the big ticket items in the already flimsy manifesto were omitted or watered down - and she still doesn't have a deal with the DUP, which leaves her totally hamstrung. Latest reports are that the Barnett consequentials resulting from their demands for funding for NI would be eye-watering sums of money - so that deal is still far from done. Meanwhile, Philip Hammond is openly contradicting her on Brexit, and she has to start her tenure post a disastrous election, with an admission that the state failed the victims of a disaster, while thousands of people took to the streets of London to demand her resignation.
To top off the indignity, even her maj trolled Mrs May, by wearing a Euro-hat instead of her crown. Ouch.'"
The final straw was Boris being interviewed on R4 tonight - I bet he will not forget the mauling he got from Eddie Mair - all down to a silly little girl. She cannot last beyond the summer.
The saving grace is the DUP hate Labour even more than the Tories so May knows she is safe - she needs to hope bi-elections are in safe Labour seats.
Nothing on reduced austerity so not all conceded - Labour must be looking forward to the next 12 months in opposition - but as May pointed out Labour were soundly beaten and as such have little to crow about.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Labour were soundly beaten and as such have little to crow about.'"
And yet they are - and Mr Corbyn appears more... prime ministerial with each passing day, don't you agree?
I think the only thing keeping her alive right now is that most MP's realise that if they off her now and Boris takes over, the party will fall harder than the Lib Dems did when Clegg sold his soul to become David Cameron's tea bitch.
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| Quote: bren2k "And yet they are - and Mr Corbyn appears more... prime ministerial with each passing day, don't you agree?
I think the only thing keeping her alive right now is that most MP's realise that if they off her now and Boris takes over, the party will fall harder than the Lib Dems did when Clegg sold his soul to become David Cameron's tea bitch.'"
The one sure thing at the moment is that, should there be a re-run of the GE, the Tories would come second, which, considering where we were 3 months ago, is unbelievable.
This does beg the question, is she the worst prime minister ever ?
(The Queen's Speech, wasn't worth everybody's time in getting dressed up and with the rumours that there wont be one next year (as there wont be time, due to Brexit), what are we paying our MP's for.
They should be on half salaries
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