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Quote: JerryChicken "Just playing devils avocado here but cigarette butts are usually 100% degradable too being paper and tobacco and will probably disappear at the same rate as a banana skin.'"


Being devil's advocaat back (albeit via Wikipedia)

"Disposal

Most cigarette filters are made from cellulose acetate. Depending on conditions, estimates for the time taken for them to degrade range from British American Tobacco's 1 month – 3 years,[3] to 10–15 years.

This resistance to biodegrading is a factor in littering, environmental damage and suggested lung damage. In the 2006 International Coastal Cleanup, the number of individual cigarettes and cigarette butts collected amounted to 24.7% of the total number of garbage items collected, over twice as many items as any other category."

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Quote: post "I could understand if they made me do an hours litter picking in the area, I'd happily accept that, but they don't want that, they want to line the coffers by fining people and do so at a price that covers the subcontractors wage too. I kow for a fact the council don't clean the car park it's done by staff employed by the Tesco on the site, where is my money going?'"

More fool you for doing it then if you know that.

Like people who get caught speeding by cameras and then say "they're only money making schemes". Here's another money making scheme:

Don't speed/smoke/litter and the money stays in your pocket.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Quote: Chris28 "More fool you for doing it then if you know that.

Like people who get caught speeding by cameras and then say "they're only money making schemes". Here's another money making scheme

So you've never ever broken the speed limit? Even by a few mph? eusa_liar.gif

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Quote: post "So you've never ever broken the speed limit? Even by a few mph? Never said that and I'm not sure how you got to that from what I typed.

Never gone through a speed camera above the speed limit and then moaned about how it's some else's fault than my own, either.

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Quote: Chris28 "Never said that and I'm not sure how you got to that from what I typed.

Never gone through a speed camera above the speed limit and then moaned about how it's some else's fault than my own, either.'"


Thing with speed cameras they're very well known and a few years ago were made to look highly visible to the motorist, its a bit different than some sneaky plain clothed jobsworth leaping out of the shadowing demanding your details and hitting you with a £75 fine for dropping a cig butt.

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Quote: post "Thing with speed cameras they're very well known and a few years ago were made to look highly visible to the motorist, its a bit different than some sneaky plain clothed jobsworth leaping out of the shadowing demanding your details and hitting you with a £75 fine for dropping a cig butt.'"

I agree on visibility, but if you hadn't dropped it in the first place, he wouldn't have needed to leap out.

Why not stub it out on a wall and put in the bin?

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There weren't any walls or bins around.

You say you don't speed when you drive through speed cameras because you know the outcome?

What if tonight as you pull up on your drive a big thuggish jobsworth wearing no inform comes up to the side of your vehicle and demands to know your name, address and date of birth as you broke the speed limit?

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Quote: post "Thing with speed cameras they're very well known and a few years ago were made to look highly visible to the motorist, its a bit different than some sneaky plain clothed jobsworth leaping out of the shadowing demanding your details and hitting you with a £75 fine for dropping a cig butt.'"


You were busted dropping some litter. Actually, you weren't busted because the guy gave himself up that he didn't have any evidence of you littering. But you tried to be a clever tvvat and mocked him, and busted yourself with it.

So you call your CID friend trying to get out of it. He can't get you out of it.

You think that the cops are going to come to your rescue, because he's a fake, right??? The cops give you short shrift. They're on his side. You're busted.

So you come on here whining about it, trying to see if there's some way out of it. You get no sympathy, you whine about it.

Just a guess here, but I'm thinking you're a scouser, right?

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Quote: post "There weren't any walls or bins around.

You say you don't speed when you drive through speed cameras because you know the outcome?

What if tonight as you pull up on your drive a big thuggish jobsworth wearing no inform comes up to the side of your vehicle and demands to know your name, address and date of birth as you broke the speed limit?'"

I'd ask to see his ID, make a note of his name, ask him to prove it and not act the smart.

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Just to poke the fire a bit:

You said you were 'working' and from the line that suggests it's company policy that you can't smoke in your vehicle, I'll assume that you're an employee rather than self-employed.

Hence, what does your employer make of this, in particular the part where you "made sure you took up as much time of his as possible" at at time when you were suppose to be 'working' (notwithstanding that it may be reasonable for you to take a short refreshment break between jobs)?

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Quote: post "So you've never ever broken the speed limit? Even by a few mph?
In Scarborough last year, I parked in a disabled bay, displayed my blue badge, the correct way, with the time (which we didn't have to but always do) and off we went. On return I had a parking ticket and couldn't work out why. Everything was correct with the badge, I was parked in a designated disabled bay but still had a ticket. Anyhoo it turned out I hadn't paid, which is something we always check on the boards as different councils around the country have different rules, but for some reason, we didn't this time.

Did I a) shout and scream and complain that how dare he give me a parking ticket as my blue badge was displayed correctly and all above board? did I b) pay the fine and vow never to just walk away again but always check if I have to pay? or did I c) Moan, complain and whinge on Sin Bin then when told I was in the wrong and shouldn't have done it, start calling everyone holier than thou?? Hmmmmmm difficult one this.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "You were busted dropping some litter. Actually, you weren't busted because the guy gave himself up that he didn't have any evidence of you littering. But you tried to be a clever tvvat and mocked him, and busted yourself with it.

So you call your CID friend trying to get out of it. He can't get you out of it.

You think that the cops are going to come to your rescue, because he's a fake, right??? The cops give you short shrift. They're on his side. You're busted.

So you come on here whining about it, trying to see if there's some way out of it. You get no sympathy, you whine about it.

Just a guess here, but I'm thinking you're a scouser, right?'"


Didn't ring mate to get me out of it, just rang for advice on the issue.

I'm not trying to get out of it I hold my hands up, peeved with the way it was done.
No not a scouser.

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Quote: Hull White Star "In Scarborough last year, I parked in a disabled bay, displayed my blue badge, the correct way, with the time (which we didn't have to but always do) and off we went. On return I had a parking ticket and couldn't work out why. Everything was correct with the badge, I was parked in a designated disabled bay but still had a ticket. Anyhoo it turned out I hadn't paid, which is something we always check on the boards as different councils around the country have different rules, but for some reason, we didn't this time.

Did I a) shout and scream and complain that how dare he give me a parking ticket as my blue badge was displayed correctly and all above board? did I b) pay the fine and vow never to just walk away again but always check if I have to pay? or did I c) Moan, complain and whinge on Sin Bin then when told I was in the wrong and shouldn't have done it, start calling everyone holier than thou?? Hmmmmmm difficult one this.'"


What about option D - Claim I be holier than thou, everyone who commits a petty crime should be stoned to death and then look down with binoculars for a reply on sinbin from up on my moral high ground whilst sitting on a high horse icon_wink.gif

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I broke the speed limit and I got the opportunity to pay to attend a speed awareness course instead of points and a fine.
Most people on the course were were a bit contrite, they knew they'd done wrong.
But one guy, whose job was delivery driving, kept returning to his favourite moan about how the camera wasn't fair and how you could always argue your case with a copper, for example if you were rushing your wife to the maternity hospital.

When asked if he was rushing his wife to the hospital, he replied that he hadn't.

But he had broken the limit? Yes.
And did he have a valid mitigating reason? No.
Did he stop moaning all day? No.

This thread reminds me of that time.

p.s. I learned quite a bit from that course but I doubt the delivery driver did.

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Quote: post "What about option D - Claim I be holier than thou, everyone who commits a petty crime should be stoned to death and then look down with binoculars for a reply on sinbin from up on my moral high ground whilst sitting on a high horse

No one has said you should be stoned to death, you were caught littering, something that lots of people hate, pay your fine and shut up, man up FFS.

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