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| Quote: cod'ead "OK.
If you are earning £20,000 from April 2013, you will pay £20000 minus £9440
You'll be eloping with Vorderman next mate.
She'll turn you into a true blue.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Seeing Danny Alexander trying to defend it was pathetic.
Those in the studio had him for breakfast. The look on their faces was 'You haven't really got a clue have you matey boy''"
Rodent just coming on C4 News now.
See how he does.
Nice free ride for him there Jon!
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| Quote: cod'ead "OK.
If you are earning £20,000 from April 2013, you will pay £20000 minus £9440
But ~£380 pa or £7.30 per week better off than right now, which you appear to be ignoring.
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| Quote: Derwent "But ~£380 pa or £7.30 per week better off than right now, which you appear to be ignoring.'"
Budgets last for 12 months FFS
Back in 1980 I was earning £60 a week, how far do you want to go back?
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| Quote: Derwent "But ~£380 pa or £7.30 per week better off than right now, which you appear to be ignoring.'"
Its called making the numbers fit your argument - are you new here?
This is what the likes of Mr Fish do - ask him about LVT - surely even his craziest notion to data!!
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Its called making the numbers fit your argument - are you new here?
This is what the likes of Mr Fish do - ask him about LVT - surely even his craziest notion to data!!'"
What is crazy about Land Value Taxation?
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| Personal allowance now is £8,105 it will be £10,000 that means you will save 20% of the difference 1,895 that being £379 over a year. Plus the savings in NI threshold. Under this government the tax threshhold will have risen by £3,525 at 20% a saving of £705 a year plus NI.
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Personal allowance now is £8,105 it will be £10,000 that means you will save 20% of the difference 1,895 that being £379 over a year. Plus the savings in NI threshold. Under this government the tax threshhold will have risen by £3,525 at 20% a saving of £705 a year plus NI.'"
It may have escaped your notice but we are discussing THIS YEAR'S BUDGET
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Beer duty escalator scrapped AND a penny a pint off beer duty.
I take back everything I ever said about Gideon.
And added 2p per litre on cider
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| Quote: Derwent "But ~£380 pa or £7.30 per week better off than right now, which you appear to be ignoring.'"
The only sensible calculation is between last year and this and not what might be next year because we have no idea what else is going to change that affects the net disposable income of anyone.
According to the BBC budget calculator someone on £20K a year will save £267 in tax and £18 in NI.
It's fairly pointless quoting that though because if you like the odd glass of wine , spirits or drive your net gain is less.
You have to take all circumstances into account.
For example if you have a kid and earn a higher salary and start to lose child benefit if one of the family hits the threshold you are soon worse off than last year. Even more so with two kids. A family with one person earning 52400 and the other at home looking after the 2 kids will be £132 worse off. A family with two working on exactly half that wage each are £562 better off. Idiotic state of affairs.
Of course it all changes when you earn £185K or more thanks to the cut in top rate of tax. Then even losing [iall [/ithe child benefit for your two kids is offset by the gains in lower tax and NI.
"Progressive" taxation? Osborne doesn't know the meaning of the word.
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| Quote: cod'ead "It may have escaped your notice but we are discussing THIS YEAR'S BUDGET'"
And was the 10k personal allowance not in THIS YEAR'S BUDGET?
No one said we were comparing THIS YEAR'S BUDGET to next year's taxation - you took it upon yourself to do that because it suited your argument!!
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| Quote: cod'ead "What is crazy about Land Value Taxation?'"
1. The cost of administering it would put a huge hole in whatever revenues it might generate
2. It would have a very negative impact on land values and would see significant business failures
3. This would just create an opportunity for pension funds/hedge funds to benefit massively.
4. You want this land for rental properties, problem is you are creating a huge benefit later down the line - at least if people own their own homes they are not reliant on house benefit to pay their rent.
Need I go on?
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2051.jpg The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "And was the 10k personal allowance not in THIS YEAR'S BUDGET?
No one said we were comparing THIS YEAR'S BUDGET to next year's taxation - you took it upon yourself to do that because it suited your argument!!'"
It was announced in this year's budget, it will not take effect until fiscal year 2014/15. I was responding to a claim that people would be £650 better off, something that is clearly wrong
Much can happen between then and now. Not least the detail that will come out once the Red Book has been analysed.
Gidiot has done his best to produce a "Jam tomorrow" budget, his record so far doesn't bode well. Unless a myracle occurs, he will be going into the next election leaving the country's finances in a worse state than he found them and all but the rich, a damn sight worse off financially.
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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