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Quote: William Eve "That's no excuse for him turning into an extreme right-wing, xenophobic, racist, sexist and bigoted dinosaur.'"

Who probably shared similar views to most of our grandparents or great-grandparents.

A completely different era, cultural norms a world away from today, and actually a very fooking good excuse for his extreme feelings. Odd you don't think your fiancée being killed in a violent act of war is worthy of a major emotional response.

I'm sure deep down he knew his views were extreme but you know what, he probably couldn't forgive, and only a fool wouldn't understand that.

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Quote: William Eve "That's no excuse for him turning into an extreme right-wing, xenophobic, racist, sexist and bigoted dinosaur.'"


Being not into the 'night sky' I used to reach for the tv zapper rapido on the the odd ocassion he appeared on my tv screen.
I could have made a pretty good assumption at some of the adjectives you've used in describing him.
I'd have used [ibat,[/i he appeared an old-school eccentric.

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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world' Yves Le Prieur, the real inventor of the aqualung:



Quote: Big Graeme "He didn't trust the French and Germans, that would sum up a large number of his generation then.'"


The French are out for the French (which I admire), so I reckon there will be lot who don't trust them.

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Quote: Cronus "Who probably shared similar views to most of our grandparents or great-grandparents.

A completely different era, cultural norms a world away from today, and actually a very fooking good excuse for his extreme feelings. Odd you don't think your fiancée being killed in a violent act of war is worthy of a major emotional response.

I'm sure deep down he knew his views were extreme but you know what, he probably couldn't forgive, and only a fool wouldn't understand that.'"


My Father fought in WW2 in the desert, in Burma then was called up for Korea. I always found it odd that he didn't seem to express hatred for his then "enemy" (at least not to me). However, he did dislike his American allies.The only aspects of war he ever discussed were either novelty, such as frying an egg on a tank hull, or "accidentally" driving his bren gen carrier through the officers mess tent!

Anyhoo, was walking sections of Hadrians wall this weekend around "Twice Brewed". I was amazed at the view of the night sky and could see the Milky Way and star clusters that I can't see at home. Jupiter was the brightest thing in the sky. There wasn't much light pollution locally although Newcastle was an orange glow beyond the horizon.

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Anyhoo, was walking sections of Hadrians wall this weekend around "Twice Brewed". I was amazed at the view of the night sky and could see the Milky Way and star clusters that I can't see at home. Jupiter was the brightest thing in the sky. There wasn't much light pollution locally although Newcastle was an orange glow beyond the horizon.'"


That would be the place to be tomorrow night for the meteors, then! It's a shame that the vast majority of people in English cities will never get to see the Milky Way in their lifetime. Unless things get so bad that we start getting power cuts. Once of the amazing things the last time we had power cuts was seeing the night sky in all its glory over Bradford, surreal.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "That would be the place to be tomorrow night for the meteors, then! It's a shame that the vast majority of people in English cities will never get to see the Milky Way in their lifetime. Unless things get so bad that we start getting power cuts. Once of the amazing things the last time we had power cuts was seeing the night sky in all its glory over Bradford, surreal.'"


I would imagine it would be a good place - we got a very clear view of a meteor in the 10mins before the lure of real ale had it's wicked way icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Dreamer "My Father fought in WW2 in the desert, in Burma then was called up for Korea. I always found it odd that he didn't seem to express hatred for his then "enemy" (at least not to me). However, he did dislike his American allies.The only aspects of war he ever discussed were either novelty, such as frying an egg on a tank hull, or "accidentally" driving his bren gen carrier through the officers mess tent!'"

It depends on personal experience. Survivors of the Japanese camps tended to harbour a hatred of their captors till they day they died. Many ordinary soldiers, even combat troops who saw action, had no hatred of the enemy but fought for their 'mates'. Others, on the other hand, had personal reason to harbour an anger and hatred of the enemy - and the loss of a loved one would probably be as good a reason as any,

Quote: Dreamer "Anyhoo, was walking sections of Hadrians wall this weekend around "Twice Brewed". I was amazed at the view of the night sky and could see the Milky Way and star clusters that I can't see at home. Jupiter was the brightest thing in the sky. There wasn't much light pollution locally although Newcastle was an orange glow beyond the horizon.'"

I've been stargazing in the Lake District, at the top of Mount Teide on Tenerife, out in the Sinai desert - but the best place by a mile was out on a bog-standard sunset cruise off the coast of South Turkey. We did the usual beach bbq, etc and at about 10.30 they switched all the boat lights off as we cruised back to harbour - simply stunning, the Milky Way was an enormous crystal clear mass of light (and black) streaking across the sky. Could see shooting stars and satellites moving in orbit. Gutted when they switched the lights back on an hour later.

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Quote: B0NES "www.jessops.com/directory/catalogue.ashx/categoriesLT;jessops_8/categoriesLT;jessops_8_37
Some good deals here, Anyone got any of these ?.'"


No and I wouldn't. I'd repeat my earlier advice that anyone interested in a first scope would be best off attending the next meet of their local astronomical society. Anyway IMHO a good-sized pair of binoculars of modest magnification, and something steady to rest them on, is a far better first observing tool than a small cheap scope. Most beginners would rapidly lose heart and interest trying to see or find anything much bar the moon, and put the scope in the loft.

But all you need tonight is your eyes, a sunlounger and plenty of warm layers. And you don't need cloud cover!

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No and I wouldn't. I'd repeat my earlier advice that anyone interested in a first scope would be best off attending the next meet of their local astronomical society. Anyway IMHO a good-sized pair of binoculars of modest magnification, and something steady to rest them on, is a far better first observing tool than a small cheap scope. Most beginners would rapidly lose heart and interest trying to see or find anything much bar the moon, and put the scope in the loft.

But all you need tonight is your eyes, a sunlounger and plenty of warm layers. And you don't need cloud cover!'"


I'm leaning more towards a decent pair binoculars to start off with .

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "That would be the place to be tomorrow night for the meteors, then! It's a shame that the vast majority of people in English cities will never get to see the Milky Way in their lifetime.'"


On the slight plus side there is the rlJames Webb Telescoperl coming in 2018 which should illuminate the sky for us even further. Live webcam of the build rlhererl

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Quote: B0NES "I'm leaning more towards a decent pair binoculars to start off with .'"


Good call. Make sure to get some that you can fit to a tripod. There is no fun to be had in watching mini star trails jiggle up and down while your arms ache like feck!

Leave them outside somewhere where they won't be nicked, for an hour or so before you go out, so the optics all cool down, to help against steaming up.

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Quote: McClennan "On the slight plus side there is the rlJames Webb Telescoperl coming in 2018 which should illuminate the sky for us even further. Live webcam of the build rlhererl'"


Although is the funding for this now confirmed? This year there was talk that it came perilously close to being cancelled, which would be a crime against humanity.

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Has anyone tried any auto-tracking telescopes or devices?

I don't think I'd be that bothered but under high magnification some celestial objects can zip across your field of vision in no time.

Just wondering.

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Quote: Cronus "Has anyone tried any auto-tracking telescopes or devices?

I don't think I'd be that bothered but under high magnification some celestial objects can zip across your field of vision in no time.

Just wondering.'"


Yes, I have a Celestron that does just that, and it's a feature available as standard or extra on most decent scopes. The latest models are even easier as basically not only do they track, but they even set themselves up.

The big bonus with having a motorised drive is that not only will it track your object as it moves across the sky, but they all have a catalogue of all the main objects which your telescope will find for you. Lazy know, but saves you having to learn star-hopping or find your way about the sky.

Such scopes usually also have a facility to connect them to a PC and control from that, so with a suitable camera fixed to the eyepiece you could even watch the view on your screen inside. You will get software with your telescope, but most astronomy software can be used to guide a scope, create "tours" and viewing lists etc.

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Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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