So then you'll have read I didn't say it was the governments fault like you accused me of.

I hate it when people ask that question. I don't have a degree in economics, I've never run a country before so it may come as a surprise to you to learn that I don't know technically what they should or shouldn't be doing. What I do know is that they are concentrating on London and the South East without having a clue whats going on up here. I would have thought the first thing would be to find out what is making the companies like Seven Seas move away from the area. Why are Kimberley Clark pulling out of Europe. It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or a towel folder) to be asking these simple questions.

I reckon the latter accusation has ruled out the former request

Kimberley Clark are pulling out of Europe because HUGGIES aren't selling, can you not read?

Seven Seas are pulling out of Hull because the workforce are stale and inflexible, again, can you not read?

Why are Siemenes reconsidering locating in Hull, would it be a poorly educated and inflexible worforce and a backward looking Council, maybe?

Why am I bitter?? I've got what I want from this government thank you. I have my ESA but more importantly an admission that I am genuinly ill and need support, which is why I have been placed in the support group and not thrown off and told to look for work.

I'll say it again, I have not blamed this government for these firms closing, as someone has rightly pointed out, bad management and low customer sales in Comets case are to blame. What I am saying is I am waiting to see what support the government offers to the workers and firms.

yup, we know, we can see you posting all day, everyday.

I didn't suggest that the workforce should make the decisions. Perhaps it's naive, but that what I'd expect management to do – manage. That, we are often told, is why management get paid so much more.

I'll shout it from the rooftops because its been a long, hard battle with this government that I sincerely hope never happens to you or yours one day. You may be in the dole queue yourself one day, or have a serious accident on the ski slopes which paralyses you. Would love to see your posts on here then.

So, crap management again.

Or is it just 'Labour's overspending blah blah keep peddling the lies' again?

Indeed. She should scuttle off into a corner and just die, shouldn't she?

do you have any knowledge of Seven Seas?

Those bloody workers refuse to match the $20 per month that will be paid in the Philippines or Cambodia. Lazy b'stards.

So, you say this is wrong and that's wrong, but you don't have an alternative?

That's what's wrong with this country. People are too quick to criticise, but won't even attempt to fix the problem in favour of just having a whinge.

I remember that. Their first store in Wigan was just a warehouse. I bought my first proper Hi Fi from them as well. Garrard 85 turnable, Goodmans receiver and Leak 2030 speakers. Far better sounding than the Japanese tat you subjected yourself to

They used to sell "proper" Hi Fi stuff like that and did it cheaper then anyone else.

Just another high street chain store now.