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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "This could be a bloody long list! I exclude any historical figures. Just ones I cam across one way or another in my lifetime.
Neil Armstrong would certainly have to be on my personal heroes list, I take the point that all the Apollo crews were objectively pretty much equally heroic but if the point of the thread is who became - for whatever reason - heroes [ito me[/i then Armstrong it is. What he achieved made a great impression on me, and started off a lifelong interest in astronomy. But I well remember Collins, I remember as a kid thinking what it must be like, so near and yet so far.
Woody Allen. I really get his humour and his take on life.
Jimmy Thompson, Keith Mumby and and Karl Fairbank. When I was a kid watching the Northern, I was just in awe of them. Trevor Foster.
Neil Young, Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan. They redefined music completely for me, made me realise that they could write and sing about anything, and in a way that resonated.
David Attenborough. Just inspirational.
Coe, Ovett and Cram. Could never wait for the next instalment.
Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton and Pelé. The epitome of sportsmen. Probably throw in George Best too.
Freddie Trueman, Geoff Boycott and Brian Close. Bishan Bedi and Muralitharan, Merv Hughes and Dennis Lillee, Viv Richards, Clive LLoyd, Michael Holding. Cricket as she should be played.
Great thread this. I could go on for yonks.'"
Worthy, just for that top lip.
who are those people under the tree BTW FFS ?
it's not the London Broncos fan club holding their AGM is it ?
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| Quote: sanjunien "not the hero or saviour you thought he would be then WZ ?
a) Patience and he could take us back to where we belong.
b) Agricultural labourers from Tolpuddle.
c) Too many in attendance for a Broncos AGM.
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| Quote: WIZEB "a) Patience and he could take us back to where we belong.
b) Agricultural labourers from Tolpuddle.
c) Too many in attendance for a Broncos AGM.'"
a) dream on
b) transported to Oz and sent back to play RL in the SL
c) agreed
wouldn't the lot from Peterloo be classed as 'heroes' for fighting for the rights of man ? just as much as that lot in Dorset did ?
and how about people like William Wilberforce and John Howard and others who did so much for social reform ? surely they would be classed as real 'heroes' ?
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| Quote: sanjunien "a) dream on
b) transported to Oz and sent back to play RL in the SL
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wouldn't the lot from Peterloo be classed as 'heroes' for fighting for the rights of man ? just as much as that lot in Dorset did ?
and how about people like William Wilberforce and John Howard and others who did so much for social reform ? surely they would be classed as real 'heroes' ?'"
We'll induct him seeing as he was born in Hull.
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| This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
Judas Iscariot wasn't a bad old stick, agree?
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| Quote: sanjunien "blimey JC, that's an heroic story but what a choice to have to make ?
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...and the thing is he was just "ordinary", he wasn't a big tough lad, quite the opposite really but what was important to him in those last few weeks was taking a trip into the dales to have dinner in a pub with his wife, having just two more nights out with us, going to Elland Rd one more time, and he couldn't have enjoyed any of that being filled full of chemicals in the hope that it would buy him one more week of being filled full of chemicals and feeling like crap.
As someone else has mentioned you can find that sort of heroism in many people with terminal diagnosis, I know my own mother wouldn't ever talk about the cancer that eventually killed her, didn't let it stop her doing anything until the very last week, you often wonder how you would cope but it would appear that its a common thread through many lives.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
I like to be lashed, beaten and humiliated - but I pay for that.
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| Quote: cod'ead "Top of my list would be Dennis Skinner.
A miner's son who passed his scholarship to the grammar school and still went down the pit because that's where all his mates were. Anything else you need to know is rlHERErl
If only we had more like him'"
Good call. I met Pat Wall and Dave Nellist at a conference once and these guy's were of the same mould, only interested in serving and not accumulate money, unlike todays crop of 'socialist' parliamentarians.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
I know a film is not always an accurate portrayal of facts, but I liked the bit at the end when they sang 'always look on the bright side of life'
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| Quote: JerryChicken "...and the thing is he was just "ordinary", he wasn't a big tough lad, quite the opposite really but what was important to him in those last few weeks was taking a trip into the dales to have dinner in a pub with his wife, having just two more nights out with us, going to Elland Rd one more time, and he couldn't have enjoyed any of that being filled full of chemicals in the hope that it would buy him one more week of being filled full of chemicals and feeling like crap.
As someone else has mentioned you can find that sort of heroism in many people with terminal diagnosis, I know my own mother wouldn't ever talk about the cancer that eventually killed her, didn't let it stop her doing anything until the very last week, you often wonder how you would cope but it would appear that its a common thread through many lives.'"
Same here, which is what made it terminal by the time it was caught. She went for the chemo option and had a reasonable quality of life until the last month, but never complained about her lot. She mentioned the pain, but not moaning. I guess people affected like that just try to get on with things, which is pretty heroic really.
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| Quote: sanjunien "great list MB ...'"
Thanks! Nice one.
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Quote: kirkstaller "This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
Read this ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Crean_(explorer)
And then come back and tell me why it's a sorry suggestion.
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Quote: kirkstaller "This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
Read this ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Crean_(explorer)
And then come back and tell me why it's a sorry suggestion.
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