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| Put numerous safe guards and consultations in place make sure that you have to see at least 10 different people, doctors, shrinks the works.
Make this process last up to 2 years and then and only then if the patient still wants to die and all the people they've seen are happy it is solely the will of the patient and there is no duress or peer pressure grant them the wish to die in a similar way to the Swiss clinic deaths.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "... Disease, strokes and other conditions only entered the world as a result of our rebellion against God.'"
Ah, so there's another creator out there creating all these things.
Good. Glad we've cleared that up.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "My point is that human beings should not decide who lives and who dies.'"
Really? So you've never received any medical treatment whatsoever then? You only drink rain water you've collected yourself?
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| Quote: Him "Really? So you've never received any medical treatment whatsoever then? You only drink rain water you've collected yourself?'"
Only meat hunted and killed by himself - let's not be having any of those namby-pamby, ungodlike meat hygiene inspectors checking it's safe, eh?
No paracetamol; no sun lotion - where does such idiocy stop?
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| Quote: Mintball "Only meat hunted and killed by himself - let's not be having any of those namby-pamby, ungodlike meat hygiene inspectors checking it's safe, eh?
No paracetamol; no sun lotion - where does such idiocy stop?'"
The OP's idiocy is as infinite as his imaginery god.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "God didn't give Tony Nicklinson his stroke.
Disease, strokes and other conditions only entered the world as a result of our rebellion against God.'"
A stroke is not a "thing" like a brick, or a budgie, Nicklinson's stroke didn't "enter the world", it does not physically exist. A "stroke" is a word used to describe a particular sequence of physical events that occurred in his body.
I'm not sure if Nicklinson "rebelled against god" but I'm damn sure Gary Barlow's baby didn't so how come your big man killed that, then? Or have you some further crackpot explanation of why such deadly conditions kill off even the newborn who have rebelled against fsck all?
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| I have a thing or two to add to this conversation .
I would like to say that Kirkstaller ain't a bad bloke if you take the time to have a chat instead of just slating him for his views on religion .
Whatever your opinions on the subject it has affected all of us in a big way .
Apart from christenings , weddings , and funerals , think how much of the music you listen to by great performers would never have reached your ears if it hadn't been for the singers being discovered in church/gospel choirs ? I'm guessing quite a lot of it . Just take a look at the number of Afro-American female ledgends .
The likes of Jones , Westenra , and Jenkins came from choirs . Any Saints fans having a dig at religion should pause and have a think about the roots of their club song .
Can you see where I am going with this bit ? Think that is enough on that subject for now .
Back on topic . If you are able to make a decision on wether you want to end your life then it should be allowed . Counselling and assistance should be given . It would allow people to reach the end of their life with some dignity , and allow family and friends to say a final farewell whilst their loved one is still breathing .
As far as I am aware a doctor can choose DNR . Doctors and family are allowed to switch off life-support . What is so different , or wrong about the patient making the choice ?
By the way . How many of you will be singing Abide With Me at Wembley on Saturday ? I know I will be doing so if I get there .
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[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: BaldRick "I have a thing or two to add to this conversation .
I would like to say that Kirkstaller ain't a bad bloke if you take the time to have a chat instead of just slating him for his views on religion .
Whatever your opinions on the subject it has affected all of us in a big way .
Apart from christenings , weddings , and funerals , think how much of the music you listen to by great performers would never have reached your ears if it hadn't been for the singers being discovered in church/gospel choirs ? I'm guessing quite a lot of it . Just take a look at the number of Afro-American female ledgends .
The likes of Jones , Westenra , and Jenkins came from choirs . Any Saints fans having a dig at religion should pause and have a think about the roots of their club song .
Can you see where I am going with this bit ? Think that is enough on that subject for now .
By the way . How many of you will be singing Abide With Me at Wembley on Saturday ? I know I will be doing so if I get there .'"
Oh dear.
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| So we should keep religion, because we get some chart hits and football anthems out of it.
Great plan. I'm convinced. Perhaps we should also keep burning at the stake, I love bonfire night.
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| Quote: Neil "The OP's idiocy is as infinite as his imaginery god.'"
Very true.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "God didn't give Tony Nicklinson his stroke.
Disease, strokes and other conditions only entered the world as a result of our rebellion against God.'"
All diseases?
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| Quote: Kosh "All diseases?'"
I wouldn't bother, he's done his usual runner. If and when he comes back it will be with some other meaningless waffling metaphysical bullshhit, the MO is to ignore points he finds too difficult, in the hope they'll go away.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "A stroke is not a "thing" like a brick, or a budgie, Nicklinson's stroke didn't "enter the world", it does not physically exist. A "stroke" is a word used to describe a particular sequence of physical events that occurred in his body.
I'm not sure if Nicklinson "rebelled against god" but I'm damn sure Gary Barlow's baby didn't so how come your big man killed that, then? Or have you some further crackpot explanation of why such deadly conditions kill off even the newborn who have rebelled against fsck all?'"
When Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis 3), they brought evil, sickness, disease, and death into the world. Sin has been wreaking havoc on the human race ever since. Consequently, we are all faced with the inevitability of death, and many of us are made to endure years of pain before meeting our maker. Even sadder is the fact that our rebellion was so serious that even some young children and babies do not survive for long in this fallen creation.
Often things happen to us that we simply cannot understand. However, instead of doubting God's goodness, our reaction should be to trust Him. We will never be able to fully understand God and His ways. It is wrong for us to question why God allows something to occur. We simply have to trust that He is loving, good, and merciful – just like Job did – even when the evidence seems to indicate the opposite. Sickness and disease are the result of sin. God provided the “cure” for sin in sending Jesus Christ to die for us (Romans 5:icon_cool.gif. Once we are in heaven, we will be free from sickness, disease, and death. Until that day, we will have to deal with sin, its effects, and its consequences.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "When Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis 3), they brought evil, sickness, disease, and death into the world. Sin has been wreaking havoc on the human race ever since. Consequently, we are all faced with the inevitability of death, and many of us are made to endure years of pain before meeting our maker. Even sadder is the fact that our rebellion was so serious that even some young children and babies do not survive for long in this fallen creation.
Often things happen to us that we simply cannot understand. However, instead of doubting God's goodness, our reaction should be to trust Him. We will never be able to fully understand God and His ways. It is wrong for us to question why God allows something to occur. We simply have to trust that He is loving, good, and merciful – just like Job did – even when the evidence seems to indicate the opposite. Sickness and disease are the result of sin. God provided the “cure” for sin in sending Jesus Christ to die for us (Romans 5
I personally don't believe in your or any other god. I also don't have a problem with anyone having a faith or a religious belief, each to their own.
Serious question, Where did all these diseases come from? Did God make/send them?
Also, are there lots of different gods or do all the religions worship the same god under a different name? Who's god was here first?
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