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I know Minty burnt her bra a long time ago so I'm assuming you ironed that shirt?

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Have you considered grey shoes?

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Quote: cod'ead "Call me old fashioned but I particulalry hate seeing anyone wear a suit without a tie. What is the frigging point in dressing up 95% of the way and then leaving out the final piece?

I reckon half of these fookers can't knot a tie properly anyway - by knot properly, I mean selecting the knot to match the structure of the tie and the collar of the shirt.'"


Fair point, each to their own.

I'm happy either way when it comes to other people, I'm just not a tie fan myself. Ties do look smart, but they don't serve a purpose, hence why I can't be bothered with them. I'd never suggest ties should never be worn.

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Quote: WIZEB "Often wear a suit without a tie but I wouldn't dream of going tieless to a wedding.'"


I would if it was just the night do. In the day I'd consider wearing a tie depending on who's wedding it was, and if I was an 'important' guest, so to speak. Obviously if I was 'told' to wear a tie as part of a dress code (or if I was taking orders from my OH), then I'd do it. I'd have to buy one first though, because I don't think I own one any more, except a black one for funerals.

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Quote: ROBINSON "Fair point, each to their own.

I'm happy either way when it comes to other people, I'm just not a tie fan myself. Ties do look smart, but they don't serve a purpose, hence why I can't be bothered with them. I'd never suggest ties should never be worn.'"


Do you go along with jacket lapels and working-cuff buttons, shirt collars, double cuffs and links?
None serve a purpose, as such.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Do you go along with jacket lapels and working-cuff buttons, shirt collars, double cuffs and links?
None serve a purpose, as such.'"



... and what purpose do underpants serve?

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Quote: Dally "... and what purpose do underpants serve?'"

To stop you getting skid marks on your trousers

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Quote: ROBINSON "I'm happy either way when it comes to other people, I'm just not a tie fan myself. Ties do look smart, but they don't serve a purpose, hence why I can't be bothered with them. I'd never suggest ties should never be worn.'"

Pretty much my attitude. I haven't worn a tie since I turned 40 (ten years ago) except for weddings and funerals.

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Quote: Pemps "To stop you getting skid marks on your trousers'"


I should have added "for clean people?"

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Back to the original question about shoes, depending on the shade of grey you could also think of burgundy coloured shoes.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Back to the original question about shoes, depending on the shade of grey you could also think of burgundy coloured shoes.'"


You could, but in these austere times black is best as you can use them with anything.

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Quote: Dally "... and what purpose do underpants serve?'"

Well, ... if you've got to ask ...

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Just playing Devil's Advocate here ... a tie offers the opportunity to accessorise, the chance to add contrast and colour to an ensemble that may be a little plain without it.
As does a pocket handkerchief ... as do cufflinks.

Despite saying all that (and meaning it, I guess), I rarely wear one myself despite owning many.

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I draw the line at pocket handkerchiefs.

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Quote: tb "www.mensflair.com/style-advice/shoe-and-suit-combinations.php?utm_source
Chestnut shoes & charcoal suit, my usual work armour of choice.

As for ties, hate them. Can only assume whoever invented them was into erotic asphyxiation. If I wanted to spend my time feeling so restricted and choked, I'd let the wife plan every minute of my life.

I'll wear a tie on a client visit but never with colleagues (neither do any of my colleagues, regardless of seniority). I'll wear a tie to a wedding/funeral but it comes off soon after the main event.

A good open-necked shirt can look far more fashionable and appealing than any tie.

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