So it's even more y crapitude than it initially appeared?

As if that were possible ...

You could give up and donate the money to the chancellor to plug the loopholes in the tax system for the rich.

Oh, no forgot, they are volunteering to stop using them which will pay for the loss of £3 billion Gideon has just given them.

Good - it would only go in the recycling bin. When we have no control over what happens between elections it hardly seems worth telling us what the money is being spent on. No amount of ing and moaning will stop it happening (e.g. War in Iraq, NHS changes, welfare changes)

I thought someone might have commented on the Automatic Review of the State Pension age. Does this mean putting my pension age to 67 or more since they last put it up from 65 to 66 last year. Sorry I forgot we are all living to 100 plus. Not where I live they arnt

That's because they're banned (unless behind the bar where customers can't get at them)

I wave my yellow fingers at you, sir.

Stick with it, Minty! I quit about 6 years ago (like you, due to cost) and whenever I go into a shop I look at the price of the fags just to remind myself what a good move it was.

Quote: fargrange1 "Noticed Osbourne did not once utter the phrase " were all in this together ", but all the front bench of millionaires blushed when Milliband asked them to nod if they were now to get a 5% tax cut. Hypocrites I imagine that a few in the Shadow Cabinet are feeling pleased at their tax cut tonight too. order-order.com/2010/10/11/shado ... lionaires/ "Millionaire Ed Miliband inherited a share of a multi-million pound property from his Marxist father, some nifty footwork by him and his brother David allowed them to avoid paying six-figure inheritance taxes. Combining marital assets and his inheritance from his father Ralph, Ed himself is comfortably a millionaire."

Quote: fargrange1 "Noticed Osbourne did not once utter the phrase " were all in this together ", but all the front bench of millionaires blushed when Milliband asked them to nod if they were now to get a 5% tax cut. Hypocrites I imagine that a few in the Shadow Cabinet are feeling pleased at their tax cut tonight too. order-order.com/2010/10/11/shado ... lionaires/ "Millionaire Ed Miliband inherited a share of a multi-million pound property from his Marxist father, some nifty footwork by him and his brother David allowed them to avoid paying six-figure inheritance taxes. Combining marital assets and his inheritance from his father Ralph, Ed himself is comfortably a millionaire."

You must be an occasional smoker, my granddads were almost black with his Capstan full strength

Hope you succeed. I have never been tempted to smoke, but my wife smoked up until 6 years ago, she tried many times for 'you' or 'the kids', it wasn't unit she decided it was for 'her' she managed it. Touch wood, she has been 'clean' since.

One thing that regularly makes me smile is when she gets a whiff of a smoker and asks 'did I really smell like that' to which I reply 'worse'

Cheers mate!

I had given up previously, for over four years, without problem. But then I had a legacy - totally unexpected - that shifted us out of perpetual working poverty. And I started having nightmares about it all being gone and us being back where we'd started. And that's when is started smoking again.